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cheb wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:32 pm I'd expect them to be really obscure or very old. The bikes, not the owners.

Are you sure about that?

Zundapp? Ossa maybe? Kreidler?

What about Jawa? They weren't that rare but still pretty unusual. Simpson? Tomos? I remember seeing them in Woolworths for £249.99.

Count Steer wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:03 pm

Rockburner wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:40 pm I can't see anyone on here having been a Zenith, Scott, Victoria, ABC or Sunbeam owner....

I did help restore a Scott when I was at school. (Flyer iirc, I think it was a 600cc watercooled twin). I say 'restore' but it can't have been that old but even so it was a complete strip down so the frame could be stove enamelled so it must have had a hard life!

Oh yeah...I had a P&M.

Peckett and McNab Kawasaki 1000?

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:54 pm

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:47 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:48 pm I was very taken with the Bridgestone GTR 350 in the mid-late '60s, but never even saw one in the metal, much less owned one.


Bridgestone-350GTR.jpg

I know someone with a couple of Bridgestones, a 175 and a 350

As I recall they were marketed as a 'premium' product; i.e they were a fair bit more expensive than your run of the mill Hondas, Yamahas and Suzukis. And they didn't have much of a dealer network. The Kawasaki Avenger 250 and 350 (disc valve 2T) models were of the same era and very tasty.

I know someone else with an Avenger 250, it's the only one I've ever seen.

Doubt there will be many who've owned a Munch?

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:38 pm I know someone else with an Avenger 250, it's the only one I've ever seen.

I was working at the local Kaw shop several years ago & some bloke showed up looking for A1 head gaskets. He was racing an A1-R at Willow for the vintage bash.
Thought he'd be SOL for parts.
I look up the part # & go the filing cabinet where we kept all the gaskets, in those hanging files.
Found 7

Me: Yeah we have some, how many ya want?
A1-R bloke: All of them!

Me: Want me to order some more?
Boss: I've had those ones about 40 years, so I think not...

I've owned a JAP & a Weslake.

porter_jamie wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:37 pm

Count Steer wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:03 pm

Rockburner wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:40 pm I can't see anyone on here having been a Zenith, Scott, Victoria, ABC or Sunbeam owner....

I did help restore a Scott when I was at school. (Flyer iirc, I think it was a 600cc watercooled twin). I say 'restore' but it can't have been that old but even so it was a complete strip down so the frame could be stove enamelled so it must have had a hard life!

Oh yeah...I had a P&M.

Peckett and McNab Kawasaki 1000?

Phelon and Moore (Panther)

There was a Vertimati owner on TRC, did anyone have a VOR?

The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:03 pm Silk?

I had one.

Well, more accurately: "I've ridden one" Customer arrived at the shop, I admired it, he gave me the key. Never met him before!

Count Steer wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:46 am

porter_jamie wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:37 pm

Count Steer wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:03 pm Oh yeah...I had a P&M.

Peckett and McNab Kawasaki 1000?

Phelon and Moore (Panther)

Horse wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:39 am

Count Steer wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:46 am

porter_jamie wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:37 pm
Peckett and McNab Kawasaki 1000?

Phelon and Moore (Panther)

Starting it was fun - as an 8.5st, 17 year old. The process involved turn fuel on, set choke, set ignition advance/retard, flick valve lifter. Leap in air and apply 8.5st to kick start. If this failed check valve lifter had not reset, leap in air etc...

(If the valve lifter lever had flipped back and I didn't notice it could cough and flirt me back up in the air ).

ZRX61 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am I've owned a JAP & a Weslake.

A JAP?? or a J.A.P. ?

.

Rockburner wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:30 am

ZRX61 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am I've owned a JAP & a Weslake.

A JAP?? or a J.A.P. ?

[Hushed Tones] And here we see a rivet counter emerging from hiding and starting to engage with his foe [/HT]

There was a slew of North American motorcrossers using Rotax engines, ATK was one, had a funny rear brake IIRC.

I didn't own it but I was chair monkey on a Weslake engined Wasp outfit.

cheb wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:13 am

Rockburner wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:30 am

ZRX61 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am I've owned a JAP & a Weslake.

A JAP?? or a J.A.P. ?

[Hushed Tones] And here we see a rivet counter emerging from hiding and starting to engage with his foe [/HT]

There was a slew of North American motorcrossers using Rotax engines, ATK was one, had a funny rear brake IIRC.

I didn't own it but I was chair monkey on a Weslake engined Wasp outfit.

OI!



I'd not heard of a bike called a "JAP", and I'm not sure if there were any bikes made under the J.A.P. brand name, (except for collaborations like Excelsior J.A.P.) so I'm just seeking clarity here!

Off the top of my head how about

SWM
Hercules
Monark
Moto Gori
Derbi
Ossa
Bultaco
Montessa
CZ
Praga

Metisse too, did they market whole bikes or just frames for you to do the conversion?

My mum had a Derbi Senda 50.

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:00 pm My mum had a Derbi Senda 50.

Unless you wear a dress and call yourself Brenda at weekends, you're not your mother