Bike security thread

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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:30 pm My GP100 got nicked from the works carpark!
Dunnowotyeronabout, I don't know nuffink.
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Re: Bike security thread

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demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:30 pm My GP100 got nicked from the works carpark!
Dunnowotyeronabout, I don't know nuffink.
Actually, I'm confused.

My KC100 got nicked from the works carpark, the GP100 got stolen from my 'rents garage when the centre lock of the up and over door got punched out. They got my mums TS50X at the same time.
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KungFooBob wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:46 pm
demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:44 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:30 pm My GP100 got nicked from the works carpark!
Dunnowotyeronabout, I don't know nuffink.
Actually, I'm confused.

My KC100 got nicked from the works carpark, the GP100 got stolen from my 'rents garage when the centre lock of the up and over door got punched out. They got my mums TS50X at the same time.

I had to Google KC100, looks a bit like the YB100 I had.

I remember KH 100 and KE100's but couldn't remember the KC100. None of my mates had one.
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Re: Bike security thread

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Yorick wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:22 pm Early 80s RD Yams were easy to steal.
Unscrew the headlight and disconnect the ignition switch connector.
Bike starts
Same with some early Kawasaki strokers. Unplug or cut the black/white wire from the ignition switch and you're away.
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These same crimes continue, decade after decade. Are we doing something wrong. ? 🤔
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You can even buy theYamaha immobiliser bypass units on eBay! :roll:


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demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:12 pm Keyless for the win
Lots of Landrover owners might disagree.
Fairly well known exploit regarding some types of keyless ignitions.

Although what they end up with might protect you?
£5 faraday bag soon stops that, an obvious solution as not keeping your car keys next to the letter box
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Taipan wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:08 pm You can even buy theYamaha immobiliser bypass units on eBay! :roll:


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It is, or was a designed feature on Triumph alarms / immobilisers

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MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:51 pm
demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:12 pm Keyless for the win
Lots of Landrover owners might disagree.
Fairly well known exploit regarding some types of keyless ignitions.

Although what they end up with might protect you?
£5 faraday bag soon stops that, an obvious solution as not keeping your car keys next to the letter box
Another obvious one is keys which turn themselves off after lack of movement for a minute or two.
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demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:12 pm Keyless for the win
Lots of Landrover owners might disagree.
Fairly well known exploit regarding some types of keyless ignitions.

Although what they end up with might protect you?
Relay theft. I turned keyless access off on my car.
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demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:12 pm Keyless for the win
Lots of Landrover owners might disagree.
Fairly well known exploit regarding some types of keyless ignitions.

Although what they end up with might protect you?
Many cars (including top marques) have canbus connections easily accessible.

www.autoblog.com/amp/2023/04/18/vehicle ... od-update/
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Dodgy69 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:00 pm These same crimes continue, decade after decade. Are we doing something wrong. ? 🤔
Us, or manufacturers?
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Re: Bike security thread

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Yorick wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:22 pm
demographic wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:15 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:12 pm Keyless for the win
Lots of Landrover owners might disagree.
Fairly well known exploit regarding some types of keyless ignitions.

Although what they end up with might protect you?
Early 80s RD Yams were easy to steal.
Unscrew the headlight and disconnect the ignition switch connector.
Bike starts
DT125's were even easier, reach in behind the headlight, pull the plug for ignition switch and it will start !
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Pah! My first bike's 'key' was flat, no grooves, no serrations, nothing. I lost it so just used a screwdriver. BSA does not stand for Bike Secure Accesss.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:06 pm Pah! My first bike's 'key' was flat, no grooves, no serrations, nothing. I lost it so just used a screwdriver. BSA does not stand for Bike Secure Accesss.
I always thought it was Bits Stuck Allover
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Yebut they weren't stuck that well, bits tended to fall off.
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