German MotoGP

[Yorick]

Which one would be at fault in a race?

MM in a race.

Zarco saw bikes approaching at 200 MPH. He should have checked.

But surely even if Zarco had checked, it should have been ok - if MM hadn't thrown his bike down the track?

If you pull out of a side road, it's up to you to make sure it's safe

Same scenario on track.

[Noggin]

MM in a race.

Zarco saw bikes approaching at 200 MPH. He should have checked.

But surely even if Zarco had checked, it should have been ok - if MM hadn't thrown his bike down the track?

If you pull out of a side road, it's up to you to make sure it's safe

Same scenario on track.

I get that. But how could he have expected a bike to be thrown at him?

In his view, it was 'safe'. Right up until 93's bike came flying sideways at him.

No?

[ChrisW]

It was a horrible accident and in the specific circumstances completely unavoidable by either rider, obviously. My only problems are Marc seemingly being unconcerned about Johann and - literally pointlessly - sprinting off for the spare but then also doubling down to put the blame on him too. Just shut up and wish Johann well!!

[Yorick]

But surely even if Zarco had checked, it should have been ok - if MM hadn't thrown his bike down the track?

If you pull out of a side road, it's up to you to make sure it's safe

Same scenario on track.

I get that. But how could he have expected a bike to be thrown at him?

In his view, it was 'safe'. Right up until 93's bike came flying sideways at him.

No?

He wasn't to blame for the crash of MM, but that corner is very notorious for crashes under braking. Especially last minute of qualifying practice.

His own fault for being hit.

[crust]

Was he running for a spare bike or running to get out of the gravel trap on a corner known for crashes?

[mangocrazy]

Was he running for a spare bike or running to get out of the gravel trap on a corner known for crashes?

Only MM would know for sure, but my view is he was 100% running for his spare bike.

[Yorick]

Damp qualification. Should be fun

[ChrisW]

You have to wonder how much longer Marquez can keep up this rate of crashes without further serious injury.

[Yorick]

Glad I aren't paying the repair bill

They took a front wing from Mir's bike

[ChrisW]

They took a front wing from Mir's bike

I was waiting for a Honda tech sneaking across the garage with a 93 sticker, whistling...

[mangocrazy]

You have to wonder how much longer Marquez can keep up this rate of crashes without further serious injury.

To himself, others, or both? He's a random wrecking ball at present - his late crash really cocked up the last minute or so of Q2, pulling out yellow flags and having fast laps cancelled.

[hawkati]

Regarding the mm/zarco crash, it wasn't mm's or zarco's fault- marquez simply lost the front doing what everyone is doing - trying to set a fast time. Zarco wasn't at fault either - at the point of being hit he was still effectively in the pit lane and not on the circuit. He had no chance whatsoever of avoiding bike 93.

Far more of an issue having a pit exit on the outside of a bend which makes people targets for crashing bikes as they join the circuit.
It's not a one off - vinalles crashed at the same spot and near collected Alex marquez.

The thing that bothered me was that marquez walked towards zarco and I thought he would have checked how he was since zarco was poleaxed. Nope, he just glanced at zarco and carried on to the pits because that was more important. Heartless cunt.

[Pirahna]

his late crash really cocked up the last minute or so of Q2, pulling out yellow flags and having fast laps cancelled.

Two sectors already had yellow flags out, MM just added a third. The last minute of Q2 was already fucked with our without Marquez crashing.

[Skub]

You have to wonder how much longer Marquez can keep up this rate of crashes without further serious injury.

I can't doubt his psychopathic determination,he is quite something else,a modern day Doohan,but he has another year of this bike left in his contract and if he keeps trying the way he does,serious injury is inevitable.

From his point of view,he knows/thinks he is still the most talented rider out there,but he can only be the fastest Honda rider,the frustration must be immense. I hope all this has a much happier ending than what I visualise.

[ChrisW]

You have to wonder how much longer Marquez can keep up this rate of crashes without further serious injury.

I can't doubt his psychopathic determination,he is quite something else,a modern day Doohan,but he has another year of this bike left in his contract and if he keeps trying the way he does,serious injury is inevitable.

From his point of view,he knows/thinks he is still the most talented rider out there,but he can only be the fastest Honda rider,the frustration must be immense. I hope all this has a much happier ending than what I visualise.

Did you see his reaction to his off in the warm up? It'll be very interesting to see what happens for the actual race, this looked like a definite watershed moment for him.

[Yorick]

You have to wonder how much longer Marquez can keep up this rate of crashes without further serious injury.

I can't doubt his psychopathic determination,he is quite something else,a modern day Doohan,but he has another year of this bike left in his contract and if he keeps trying the way he does,serious injury is inevitable.

From his point of view,he knows/thinks he is still the most talented rider out there,but he can only be the fastest Honda rider,the frustration must be immense. I hope all this has a much happier ending than what I visualise.

Did you see his reaction to his off in the warm up? It'll be very interesting to see what happens for the actual race, this looked like a definite watershed moment for him.

Blimey. Again ? What did he do?

[ChrisW]

I can't doubt his psychopathic determination,he is quite something else,a modern day Doohan,but he has another year of this bike left in his contract and if he keeps trying the way he does,serious injury is inevitable.

From his point of view,he knows/thinks he is still the most talented rider out there,but he can only be the fastest Honda rider,the frustration must be immense. I hope all this has a much happier ending than what I visualise.

Did you see his reaction to his off in the warm up? It'll be very interesting to see what happens for the actual race, this looked like a definite watershed moment for him.

Blimey. Again ? What did he do?

Nasty high side, massively dejected afterwards, head down and leaning on a barrier. Also a small fracture to a finger.

[Pirahna]

Video of MM warm up crash

https://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2023/0 ... ash/458025

[Noggin]

Blimey

[Yorick]

Suzi is looking cute