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Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:13 am
by Cousin Jack
KungFooBob wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:16 pm
Cousin Jack fought in WW1 so we let him off these faux pas.
Bloody young whippersnapper, no respecr for your elders.

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:48 am
by dern
Count Steer wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:51 am
Re the soft rear end, it seems to be a thing with tourer set up that the default is 'comfort' ie soggy. Has it got EAS? Either way changing the rear shock parameters should sort it.
(Just nosing about on the Internet for info on the WP made unit on my old bike, wondering if they're an alternative to Ohlins if you wanted to change it, and found that they're now wholly owned by KTM. Didn't know that).
It doesn’t have eas. I’ll play with it today and see where I end up. I did read one suspension setup guide that suggested the standard set up was too stiff so I really need to get it back to the baseline and go from there.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:53 am
by dern
Dodgy69 wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 6:15 am
Can you still slip the clutch when in auto. ?
It controls the clutches for you so it slips them as you pull away or when you change gear. If you’re doing slow manoeuvres it continues to slip the clutch for the first gear as far as I can tell and you can modulate your low speed with the rear brake. So you can crawl along as slow as you can with a normal bike. The only danger is that if you are crawling along and you modulate your speed with the throttle then if you go slow enough and let the throttle go to zero then it can remove drive. I think that the way to stop this is to ensure you always have the throttle open when manoeuvring and keep speed low with the rear brake. I’ve only had it for half a day though and I need to play with this stuff.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 9:56 am
by dern
One thing I haven’t mentioned is that it’s not possible to leave it in gear on a hill so they put a handbrake on it. This is an excellent thing because you can start it on a hill without having to hold a brake on. In one afternoon this has already proved very useful.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 10:16 am
by G.P
Happy new bike day.
A mate has recently bought a manual version of it and is really impressed with it, great build quality etc. If it had a bigger range and Cruise control I'd be tempted myself as a tourer, / long range commuter.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 11:28 am
by dern
Interesting, if you’re interested…
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 4:41 pm
by Dodgy69
My only concern with these auto's, is slipping the clutch. On this trip, very tight uphill or downhill hairpins, I'm on the clutch, whether it's slipping going up or cutting drive going down. I just feel I need control.
They probably deal with all that, but that's my concern and I don't really want an automatic motorbike, car yes.


Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 7:08 pm
by dern
It can easily cope with what you’re describing. It feels like a manual box with an up and down quick shifter. I’d say it’s something you’d have to have a go with before writing off but to be honest I’ve no vested interest in anyone doing that. My only concern with buying this bike with this gearbox is that I’m setting myself up to be repeatedly told that people don’t want an automatic bike and I don’t really care if I’m honest, this is just a thread where I give my impressions of my bike

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 7:19 pm
by dern
Stripped the side of the fairings off today to wire in a feed for the satnav, a voltmeter (had Hondas before) and the charging cable. Took a while as I didn’t want to break the expensive panels.

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Also did a load more miles this afternoon. I really like this bike. I was concerned that I was only buying a tourer but it really hussles a b road with the right inputs. I went out for a couple of hours just playing on the back roads using the manual gearbox mode and this thing is absolutely superb. I put the suspension back to standard too and it’s way less bouncy.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 7:40 pm
by weeksy
Mate of some on here used to ride an FJR1300 thing like it was a Panigale. It was epic to see
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 7:42 pm
by dern
weeksy wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:40 pm
Mate of some on here used to ride an FJR1300 thing like it was a Panigale. It was epic to see
Now they are heavy.
This does start to feel like it’s tying itself up in knots very occasionally but not often. However on balance it feels easier and substantially safer to ride fast than the superduke

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 7:46 pm
by Horse
dern wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:19 pm
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Is that a K1600LT in the distant background?

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:00 pm
by Dodgy69
Your neighbour not gone EV yet then.
Looks very tidy that Dern.

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 8:16 pm
by dern
He occasionally takes that thing to the pub. I imagine it’s pretty interesting if time consuming hobby.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun May 28, 2023 10:56 pm
by Buckaroo
dern wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:19 pm
Stripped the side of the fairings off today to wire in a feed for the satnav, a voltmeter (had Hondas before) and the charging cable. Took a while as I didn’t want to break the expensive panels.
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Also did a load more miles this afternoon. I really like this bike. I was concerned that I was only buying a tourer but it really hussles a b road with the right inputs. I went out for a couple of xxx hours just playing on the back roads using the manual gearbox mode and this thing is absolutely superb. I put the suspension back to standard too and it’s way less bouncy.
In the top picture,was that Tiepin going past on his latest purchase?
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 7:08 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Buckaroo wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 10:56 pm
In the top picture,was that Tiepin going past on his latest purchase?
He bought it cause there's no fuelling to sort.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 7:12 am
by Count Steer
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 7:08 am
Buckaroo wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 10:56 pm
In the top picture,was that Tiepin going past on his latest purchase?
He bought it cause there's no fuelling to sort.
Oh, I don't know. There's a new nutty slack feeder that's supposed to reduced low speed regulator jerkiness and a carbon shovel that gives higher load rates for improved mid-range power delivery.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 8:45 am
by the_priest
DCT on the Honda is good. My NC700X DCT was fun in sports mode, drive was perfect for commuting. Well worth having as a relaxed riding bike, but to be honest the 700 was dull. The 1200 at least has some real poke to it and is in a better chassis! Enjoy riding it.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 10:56 am
by Taipan
Count Steer wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 7:12 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 7:08 am
Buckaroo wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 10:56 pm
In the top picture,was that Tiepin going past on his latest purchase?
He bought it cause there's no fuelling to sort.
Oh, I don't know. There's a new nutty slack feeder that's supposed to reduced low speed regulator jerkiness and a carbon shovel that gives higher load rates for improved mid-range power delivery.
And because of that,I'm out!
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 5:11 pm
by Couchy
Having just bought a DCT Africa twin you’ll get loads of people asking why you bought an auto, some of them ride bikes with a QS and blipper so never use a clutch apart from pulling off. A DCT can be ridden that way if you want and you can change gear. Tbh mine is in the right gear most of the time and when it isn’t it’s a button press or lever tap away