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A_morti wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:27 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 2:15 pm I tried my iPhone 11 on a quad lock mount and it buggered the phone. Still had the mount with the damper - but decided not to risk it.
For me the beeline looks good, but doesn't give enough information in confusing settings. It's the last mile or two where you usually need the most help, and it's just not enough for that, IMO.

So, I use the quad lock with vibration damper. Usually on Waze for directions, since it's better at Malta than Google maps.

It works!
iPhone 11s seem to be susceptible to the vibrations from big twins - so I buggered one phone, and iPhone replaced it. But I am a few years out go warranty - so a phone costs 1000k - and BeelIne 160 GBP.
I do know of a couple of people who have treated iPhones even with the damper. And contacted Quadlock directly , they would not give me a cast iron guarantee that it wouldn't break the phone. iPhone will no longer replace phones which have Quadlock damage. However one of my party used a Quadlock and an iPhone 14 on a RnineT with no issue.
I used it in the Normandy trip - the one negative being the bluetooth battery usage from the phone to the Beeline. It seemed to cope admirably with most of the route changes we had - only acting late in one or two cases. It is small, light, easy to carry - you can set up more complicated routes on the app if required.
What it does make you do is study the roads and junctions - rather that go into GPS zombie mode.
The battery time of the Beeline is about 30 hours.

TBH I was looking for a "get me home" tool - rather than a full blown GPS. Had my phone worked , they Quadlock would have been the solution - as it munches battery just a quickly. I have a USB port under the seat - so just have to do a bit of fettling to have a power connection for the phone.
If I ever go on a big tour, I guess I would get a Garmin XT - but talking to the shop about an extra mount and cable for a second bike , and suddenly we were talking 70 GBP or more ...
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Mr Moofo wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:22 am
The only issue is how much battery power it uses - so I will have to hard wire a phone connection in
Once you load in the map to the Beeline,you can switch off your phone data.
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The Beeline would have done me y'day. My Garmin batteries died y'day on the way home, and I THOUGHT I knew where I was... after about 15 mins I realised the sun was on the wrong side and I was headed NE instead of SE... thinking about it later, it was the same junction I'd made the same mistake last year in the car.
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Skub wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:32 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:22 am
The only issue is how much battery power it uses - so I will have to hard wire a phone connection in
Once you load in the map to the Beeline,you can switch off your phone data.
As long as you don't make detours, right?
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Mr Moofo wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:10 pm
Skub wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:32 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 9:22 am
The only issue is how much battery power it uses - so I will have to hard wire a phone connection in
Once you load in the map to the Beeline,you can switch off your phone data.
As long as you don't make detours, right?
Ah,yeah. Probably.
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Do you switch off the display on the phone? I do that before I put it in my pocket, and the battery seems to last well - a good few hours at least.
But don't use battery saver mode:
https://support.beeline.co/en/support/s ... ity-issues
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BTW on a recent trip to France the Beeline didn't always seem to get the exit number on roundabouts right. So I got used to paying more attention to the direction it was indicating, with the little blob. That always seemed to be correct.
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dern wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:20 pm Sort of on topic but I’ve noticed something that my Tom Tom rider 550 has started doing. I’m not sure if it’s always done it or I’ve just noticed. It tell me when I’ve entered an average speed camera zone, how far until the exit and what my average speed has been since I passed the first camera. Pretty neat I think.

Not seen that on mine, but can't think of any average speed camera zones I have ridden through in Europe.

It seem to display the "camera warning" bar forever in France, with their "speed cameras for 48kms" signs on loads of the back roads.
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Whysub wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:11 am
dern wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:20 pm Sort of on topic but I’ve noticed something that my Tom Tom rider 550 has started doing. I’m not sure if it’s always done it or I’ve just noticed. It tell me when I’ve entered an average speed camera zone, how far until the exit and what my average speed has been since I passed the first camera. Pretty neat I think.

Not seen that on mine, but can't think of any average speed camera zones I have ridden through in Europe.

It seem to display the "camera warning" bar forever in France, with their "speed cameras for 48kms" signs on loads of the back roads.
I updated mine before going to France a few weeks ago so maybe it was in that update. I only noticed riding to Loomies though as the approach from the north has an average speed camera zone on it.

There did seem to be an awful lot of speed cameras in France so it could have been accurate :)
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A_morti wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:27 pm So, I use the quad lock with vibration damper. Usually on Waze for directions, since it's better at Malta than Google maps.

It works!
I saw that video a while back. If you look at the bar you can see that's vibrating so the image has been stabilised to the phone on the vibration damper and not the bar or the other phone. Inevitably the other phone will look like it's vibrating more than it probably is and a lot more in comparison with the phone on the quad lock mount. It's a highly misleading video.

If they put something not connected to anything on the bar it would give a more accurate representation.