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Re: New Project(s)
Since i had a clean carb, and a carb refurb kit from Germany, i put it all together, fitted the tank, with a new fuel filter, pulled the tank cap out of its ACF50 bath, put it all together and tried it.
Nada.
Eventually figured out the fuel wasn't flowing at all (which confused the hell out of me), until i stripped the float bowl again and realised that the float needle wasn't hitched into the float properly, but was jammed into the fuel feed and wasn't opening up. D'oh!
So fixed that, reassembled.
And the little fucker started second kick.
Nada.
Eventually figured out the fuel wasn't flowing at all (which confused the hell out of me), until i stripped the float bowl again and realised that the float needle wasn't hitched into the float properly, but was jammed into the fuel feed and wasn't opening up. D'oh!
So fixed that, reassembled.
And the little fucker started second kick.
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Re: New Project(s)
Still got a fair bit too do on the Puch.
The twist grip is knackered, i did buy a new one, but it doesn't fit properly, neither on the bar in relation to the brake lever nor with the original cable, so I'm going to try to get one that's closer to OE. (The one i bought appears to be some sort of fast action item).
I also need to replace the from brake cable, somehow the sheath has fucked itself, so I'm simply going to replace the thing.
The carb is also pissing fuel, could be the flat bowl is simply leaking, but I'm wondering if i need to replace the float itself, i have a new one so that'll be easy. Then i can see if the leak is from anywhere else.
The twist grip is knackered, i did buy a new one, but it doesn't fit properly, neither on the bar in relation to the brake lever nor with the original cable, so I'm going to try to get one that's closer to OE. (The one i bought appears to be some sort of fast action item).
I also need to replace the from brake cable, somehow the sheath has fucked itself, so I'm simply going to replace the thing.
The carb is also pissing fuel, could be the flat bowl is simply leaking, but I'm wondering if i need to replace the float itself, i have a new one so that'll be easy. Then i can see if the leak is from anywhere else.
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Re: New Project(s)
I don't know anyone who's actually bought one of those, yet everyone has one.
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Re: New Project(s)
I bought three. I'm very good at losing things...Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:33 amI don't know anyone who's actually bought one of those, yet everyone has one.
There is no cloud, just somebody else's computer.
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Re: New Project(s)
Tinkered with the Puch today, (no photos, sorry).
Replaced the front brake cable, easy.
Refitted the "airbox" and the various air filters.
Refilled the gearbox with ATF, bit awkward because the filler hole is about 8mm, and i didn't have any proper crush washers, so made do with rubber washers and o-rings. Not sure they're working very well so need to find a "grab bag" of crush washers. I'm buggered if I'm going to use fibre washers. Hate those things.
Its starting and running like a good 'un now.
Tried pumping up the tyres, but the tubes are knackered, so need to get a new pair, and fit them, which means buying some tyre levers. I've managed to get this far in life without needing any, not sure how!
Replaced the front brake cable, easy.
Refitted the "airbox" and the various air filters.
Refilled the gearbox with ATF, bit awkward because the filler hole is about 8mm, and i didn't have any proper crush washers, so made do with rubber washers and o-rings. Not sure they're working very well so need to find a "grab bag" of crush washers. I'm buggered if I'm going to use fibre washers. Hate those things.
Its starting and running like a good 'un now.
Tried pumping up the tyres, but the tubes are knackered, so need to get a new pair, and fit them, which means buying some tyre levers. I've managed to get this far in life without needing any, not sure how!
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Re: New Project(s)
The technical expression for that process is 'preventative maintenance', ie you prevented it from workingRockburner wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:39 pm Since i had a clean carb, and a carb refurb kit from Germany, i put it all together, fitted the tank, with a new fuel filter, pulled the tank cap out of its ACF50 bath, put it all together and tried it.
Nada.
Eventually figured out the fuel wasn't flowing at all (which confused the hell out of me), until i stripped the float bowl again and realised that the float needle wasn't hitched into the float properly, but was jammed into the fuel feed and wasn't opening up. D'oh!
So fixed that, reassembled.
And the little fucker started second kick.
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Re: New Project(s)
That would only apply if it had ever received any maintenance!Horse wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:17 amThe technical expression for that process is 'preventative maintenance', ie you prevented it from workingRockburner wrote: Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:39 pm Since i had a clean carb, and a carb refurb kit from Germany, i put it all together, fitted the tank, with a new fuel filter, pulled the tank cap out of its ACF50 bath, put it all together and tried it.
Nada.
Eventually figured out the fuel wasn't flowing at all (which confused the hell out of me), until i stripped the float bowl again and realised that the float needle wasn't hitched into the float properly, but was jammed into the fuel feed and wasn't opening up. D'oh!
So fixed that, reassembled.
And the little fucker started second kick.![]()
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Re: New Project(s)
So - yesterday I had a bit of time so I scurried over to the workshop, giggling all the way, with my hands full of inner-tubes and tyre levers.....
First point of business was trying to figure out why the Puch was still pissing gearbox oil.
It "seemed" to be coming from the "fill-level-hole", so I unscrewed the screw, cleaned the face of the hole, fitted a second new crush washer and doubled up with blue hylomar to seal the fucker properly. 5 minutes later there's oil dripping AGAIN.
GAH!
spent a bit more time looking at it (getting underneath it for a properly look is a pain), then realised there was a smear of oil all along the lower face of the casing... where the join runs. Grabbed a PZ3 screwdriver bit and went round the screws (yes, screws) that hold the casing on... and 3 of the 5 were fucking loose!! No wonder it was pissing oil!
So - with that issue sorted, I moved the JAPton around in the workshop to give me more room.
I'd been wondering how I'd get the wheels out of the Puch and realised I had the perfect piece of equipment which was otherwise superfluous to requirements.... (this is why I never throw anything away if it's still "working").

It's a "sit-stand" desk unit that I was using during Covid when working off the dining room table. The spring in it isn't capable of lifting the Puch by itself, but the pneumatic brace is perfectly happy to hold the bike once it's up. Bit of a heave is all that's required.

It even came with the brackets for the straps.
(well - they're actually the brackets for the keyboard shelf, but they work fine in the new position).
So - lovely little work lift for a lightweight bike.
Very pleased with myself I dropped the front wheel out and proceeded to strip out the old inner tube.
F*ck me, I haven't done this for over 30 years (changed an inner tube), and with a 14" wheel the tyre was NOT happy to come off.
But eventually, with a lot of swearing and sweating it did eventually get over the rim.
Pulled out the old inner tube - it actually "looks" fine... but I think the valve itself was the leak (oddly). It's not a usual Shrader though, so the valve cores that came with the tyre lever kit wouldn't fit. So - I pulled out the new one and commenced to get it into place.
Bit more sweating and swearing and it's in.... get the pump out and get busy.
w.
t.
f.
hisssssssssssssssssssssss
The sodding NEW inner tube LEAKS.
At that point it was half past 6 and I had to be at the station to pick up the other half at 7, so I swore a lot more, left the wheel where it was sitting, left a very disappointed review for the inner tube on Amazon and stomped back to the house in a foul mood.
Anyone know a good source of RELIABLE inner tubes in unusual sizes? This one is a 14"/2.5 (the rear is a 12"/2.75-3.00)
First point of business was trying to figure out why the Puch was still pissing gearbox oil.
It "seemed" to be coming from the "fill-level-hole", so I unscrewed the screw, cleaned the face of the hole, fitted a second new crush washer and doubled up with blue hylomar to seal the fucker properly. 5 minutes later there's oil dripping AGAIN.
GAH!
spent a bit more time looking at it (getting underneath it for a properly look is a pain), then realised there was a smear of oil all along the lower face of the casing... where the join runs. Grabbed a PZ3 screwdriver bit and went round the screws (yes, screws) that hold the casing on... and 3 of the 5 were fucking loose!! No wonder it was pissing oil!
So - with that issue sorted, I moved the JAPton around in the workshop to give me more room.
I'd been wondering how I'd get the wheels out of the Puch and realised I had the perfect piece of equipment which was otherwise superfluous to requirements.... (this is why I never throw anything away if it's still "working").

It's a "sit-stand" desk unit that I was using during Covid when working off the dining room table. The spring in it isn't capable of lifting the Puch by itself, but the pneumatic brace is perfectly happy to hold the bike once it's up. Bit of a heave is all that's required.

It even came with the brackets for the straps.
So - lovely little work lift for a lightweight bike.
Very pleased with myself I dropped the front wheel out and proceeded to strip out the old inner tube.
F*ck me, I haven't done this for over 30 years (changed an inner tube), and with a 14" wheel the tyre was NOT happy to come off.
But eventually, with a lot of swearing and sweating it did eventually get over the rim.
Pulled out the old inner tube - it actually "looks" fine... but I think the valve itself was the leak (oddly). It's not a usual Shrader though, so the valve cores that came with the tyre lever kit wouldn't fit. So - I pulled out the new one and commenced to get it into place.
Bit more sweating and swearing and it's in.... get the pump out and get busy.
w.
t.
f.
hisssssssssssssssssssssss
The sodding NEW inner tube LEAKS.
At that point it was half past 6 and I had to be at the station to pick up the other half at 7, so I swore a lot more, left the wheel where it was sitting, left a very disappointed review for the inner tube on Amazon and stomped back to the house in a foul mood.
Anyone know a good source of RELIABLE inner tubes in unusual sizes? This one is a 14"/2.5 (the rear is a 12"/2.75-3.00)
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Re: New Project(s)
I was very careful not to. (but I'll admit I"m well out of practise)Taipan wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:27 pm I hate to say it, but I bet you nipped the tube when refitting the tyre...
Haven't tried taking the tube back out yet to see where/how the leak has manifested.
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Re: New Project(s)
I give up. I am officially crap at fitting inner tubes.
Anyone know a good motorcycle tyre fitting shop near Chichester?
Anyone know a good motorcycle tyre fitting shop near Chichester?
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Re: New Project(s)
Dont be too harsh on yourself. Theres not many that fit tyres with inner tubes and dont nip them! I've alwasy fitted my own tyres but with the current bike that has tubes, someone else will be doing them!Rockburner wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:20 pm 16905683395036758114899450305565.jpg
I give up. I am officially crap at fitting inner tubes.
Anyone know a good motorcycle tyre fitting shop near Chichester?
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Re: New Project(s)
I never really expected to be good at it, but pissed that i damaged 3 in a row.Taipan wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:34 amDont be too harsh on yourself. Theres not many that fit tyres with inner tubes and dont nip them! I've alwasy fitted my own tyres but with the current bike that has tubes, someone else will be doing them!Rockburner wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:20 pm 16905683395036758114899450305565.jpg
I give up. I am officially crap at fitting inner tubes.
Anyone know a good motorcycle tyre fitting shop near Chichester?
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Re: New Project(s)
How did you manage that one? Did a rivit counter get offended by a pic of a non stock bike?Rockburner wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:42 am I also seem to have been thrown off / barred from the JAP Engine Facebook group I was on - so also need to find a J.A.P. specialist source of further information.
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Re: New Project(s)
I have no idea... I've tried to rejoin, but still waiting...Skub wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:10 pmHow did you manage that one? Did a rivit counter get offended by a pic of a non stock bike?Rockburner wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:42 am I also seem to have been thrown off / barred from the JAP Engine Facebook group I was on - so also need to find a J.A.P. specialist source of further information.![]()
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