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Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:55 am
by Trinity765
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:45 am
weeksy wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:10 am The problem comes with timings.

Getting the buyer to pay off the finance is arguably the easiest answer.
Indeed - made all the more difficult by the finance company only accepting a card payment from a card in my name.

I think the reality is that there are risks on both sides and were it possible to do something face to face no one would have a problem, but doing this sort of thing over distance requires an element of trust and understandably there isn't any. I think if I want to sell it, I'm going to need to clear the finance. It'll make everything a lot more simple. Though keeping the crazy bike might just be the best thing to do!

Cheers for your thoughts though :obscene-drinkingcheers:
Won't 790s keep their value or even increase as they are no longer in production and very desirable? I wouldn't mind one myself.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:47 am
by Numnut
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:55 am Won't 790s keep their value or even increase as they are no longer in production and very desirable? I wouldn't mind one myself.
Not a clue! People seem to want them more than the standard 890 that replaced it.

When I had my first one, I spoke to a dealer about trading in and he said to wait as the 890 was coming and that would bump up prices for 2nd hand 790s. I'm not sure it did.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:04 am
by Trinity765
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:47 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:55 am Won't 790s keep their value or even increase as they are no longer in production and very desirable? I wouldn't mind one myself.
Not a clue! People seem to want them more than the standard 890 that replaced it.

When I had my first one, I spoke to a dealer about trading in and he said to wait as the 890 was coming and that would bump up prices for 2nd hand 790s. I'm not sure it did.
I've made a mental note of this thread for later in the year when I'm thinking of a new bike - the 790 would be a proper hoot and they'll be hard to find.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:18 am
by Dodgy69
Have it...

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:19 am
by KungFooBob
But doesn't the 790 have a whole raft of potential problems that makes owning one out of warranty like playing Russian Roulette?

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:30 am
by weeksy
KungFooBob wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:19 am But doesn't the 790 have a whole raft of potential problems that makes owning one out of warranty like playing Russian Roulette?
Not really... minor niggles which are mostly sorted or very simple. Trinitys had a load of expensive issues with the 765, nothing like that on the 790s and generally if they've been fixed under warranty, they don't come back again.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:17 am
by Trinity765
I have concerns that the clutch and timing chain adjuster will be issues again after another fun summer on the Street.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:21 am
by Trinity765
Incidentally, I had the Street on a PCP deal but I paid it off early at the beginning of last year so that I could sell it quick if I wanted to.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am
by Numnut
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:17 am I have concerns that the clutch and timing chain adjuster will be issues again after another fun summer on the Street.
Well, the buyer and I have decided not to go ahead...

Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:48 am
by Yorick
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:17 am I have concerns that the clutch and timing chain adjuster will be issues again after another fun summer on the Street.
Well, the buyer and I have decided not to go ahead...

Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
The engines seem to do well in Moto2 racing where they are thrashed mercilessly.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:51 am
by Numnut
Yeah you're right - I'd forgotten they're all trumpets now!

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:26 pm
by Pgm
Are you selling to buy another bike ? Part exchange it maybe.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pm
by Beancounter
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
I must have missed something, what problems does a Street Triple suffer from? Only asking because the girlfriend is tempted by them (amongst others to be fair).

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Yorick wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:48 am
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am
Trinity765 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:17 am I have concerns that the clutch and timing chain adjuster will be issues again after another fun summer on the Street.
Well, the buyer and I have decided not to go ahead...

Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
The engines seem to do well in Moto2 racing where they are thrashed mercilessly.
And get the oil changed every time their used and do sod all miles.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:35 pm
by MrLongbeard
Beancounter wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pm
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
I must have missed something, what problems does a Street Triple suffer from? Only asking because the girlfriend is tempted by them (amongst others to be fair).
They have a massive inferiority complex when parked next to their daddy the full sized Speed Triple

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:39 pm
by Skub
Beancounter wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pm
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
I must have missed something, what problems does a Street Triple suffer from? Only asking because the girlfriend is tempted by them (amongst others to be fair).
Trinity has had a fair few problems with hers,I don't know if that's common among owners. Clutch/cam chain,etc.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:42 pm
by Yorick
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:48 am
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am

Well, the buyer and I have decided not to go ahead...

Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
The engines seem to do well in Moto2 racing where they are thrashed mercilessly.
And get the oil changed every time their used and do sod all miles.
They are tuned up to 140 gee gees and each engine will do about 1,000 torturing miles.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:59 pm
by Trinity765
High jacking this thread for a little Street Triple TED Talk.


I've had a 2009 and a 2012 675 Streets with no issue, 64k and 45k miles respectively.

The 2019 765 RS I have now had it's clutch replaced under warranty at its 12k service (by Triumph) even though there wasn't anything wrong with the original. It slipped on the way home and I challenged it and they said it was because it was new but I now believe that was b******* as they probably didn't soak it properly first. Over the next 10k miles it slipped a couple of times and became noisy. I also noticed another strange noise/vibration when it was ticking over (the timing chain/cams).

Coming up to the 24k service I went to a different dealer, told them the history (though they would have had a record of it) and they put in another clutch under warranty.

After another 1000 miles it made a horrendous noise when I started it up hot - like it was going to break itself apart. I told the dealer and they replaced the timing chain adjuster. Then, it started to do it again (the noise) at the end of the Pembery trackday and I realised it was worse when the engine was hot - so on the way home I got it nice and hot and stopped right outside the dealers door and shouted "listen!". They agreed straight away that it was a major issue, took it in and replaced the cams under the warranty that had now run out. I believe the cams wouldn't have gone if they had changed the timing chain adjuster when I first complained about the noise.

I look after my bikes (excuse the downpipes), keep to the servicing schedule and change the oil and filter in between services.

I have a friend of a friend who bought a 765 for the track but couldn't afford the clutches so sold it.

Edit: I have another friend/mechanic who has the same bike and he said he changes the oil every time the clutch gets noisy. I said "even if that's every 2,000 miles?" and he said yes. So, maybe that's the trick - an oil change every 2k.

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:02 pm
by Taff
Beancounter wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:29 pm
Numnut wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:38 am Based purely on the problems you've mentioned on here, I've been put off from ever buying a Street!
I must have missed something, what problems does a Street Triple suffer from? Only asking because the girlfriend is tempted by them (amongst others to be fair).
I haven't read the thread about the problems, but the Tiger 800 has pretty much the same engine with a longer stroke and there's very few problems that haven't been fixed.

I'd have no issues at all buying a street trip

Re: Selling a bike on finance

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:11 pm
by Trinity765
I've talked about this a lot and have asked several advanced riders if they think it's me/riding style. I don't think it is but I've always been open to feedback.