Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Anything you like about motorbikes
Couchy
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:56 pm
Has thanked: 326 times
Been thanked: 2173 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Couchy »

Pilot road 3/4/5 or Bridgestone T30/31, work from cold and great in the wet.
Pure sports touring tyres, anything more than that on the road is a complete waste of tyre tbh. Even on track the T31 were used on the Haslam race school and no one here is going any faster on the road than RH on track on these tyres.
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1544 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by wull »

I’ll say it again. S22 or Rosso 3 and that’s it.
The Spin Doctor
Posts: 4096
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:17 pm
Has thanked: 2635 times
Been thanked: 1523 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by The Spin Doctor »

Horse wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:25 am
The Spin Doctor wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:35 pm Am I the only one using Contis? ;)
The last time I used Contis was about 1979 :)

I'm surprised that a traditionalist like you doesn't use Pneumants ;)
I'd be happy with Mk3 Roadrunners if they still made them and in the right size ;)

First tyre I got my knee down using, and up to 18k out of a rear :)
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer." Henry David Thoreau
www.ko-fi.com/survivalskills www.survivalskillsridertraining.co.uk www.facebook.com/survivalskills
User avatar
Bigyin
Posts: 3179
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:39 pm
Has thanked: 1412 times
Been thanked: 2680 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Bigyin »

The Spin Doctor wrote: Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:35 pm Am I the only one using Contis? ;)
I had a Contimotion on the rear of the Fazer and it now has a Pirelli Diablo Strada as FWR had a deal on it and cheap as chips.

On the Ducati I use Pirelli Angel GT2. Good wet grip and enough grip for trackday use in my hands and last about 6000 miles with the way I ride.

As for S22 I would have said more of a sports tyre than a sport touring tyre ;)
Couchy
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:56 pm
Has thanked: 326 times
Been thanked: 2173 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Couchy »

wull wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:37 pm I’ll say it again. S22 or Rosso 3 and that’s it.
What about in the wet and cold ? Touring tyres are better
User avatar
KungFooBob
Posts: 14203
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm
Location: The content of this post is not AI generated.
Has thanked: 539 times
Been thanked: 7530 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by KungFooBob »

I've been reading the reviews of the S22, Jezza McWilliams can get his knee down on them in the wet and he's tiny so has to lean a long way!
User avatar
MingtheMerciless
Posts: 3553
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:42 am
Location: Scarfolk on Sea
Has thanked: 2942 times
Been thanked: 1883 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by MingtheMerciless »

Pilot Road 5's on the ZH2, much better in greasey conditions than the Pirellis it came with and seem to be lasting well.
"Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
"My dear Doctor, they're all true."
"Even the lies?"
"Especially the lies."
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1544 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by wull »

Couchy wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:46 pm
wull wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:37 pm I’ll say it again. S22 or Rosso 3 and that’s it.
What about in the wet and cold ? Touring tyres are better
They’re fantastic in the wet and cold, heat up real quick and have good life. I’ve used them in all conditions on the road and also a few track days between 3 bikes, 1299s, S1000rr and GSXR 1000.

I started off with the Rosso 3 and couldn’t fault them, I then just for the sake of it tried the S22 because the wife went with the Rosso 3’s on her bike and I’ve kept using the S22’s. Only downside with them on track is they do move around a lot but that’s to be expected, but saves the hassle of sapping wheels or tyres just for a track day.
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1544 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by wull »

You can tell how good they’ll be just from touching them at ambient temps, nice and soft with a harder compound in the centre for longevity.
Couchy
Posts: 2388
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:56 pm
Has thanked: 326 times
Been thanked: 2173 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Couchy »

wull wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:59 pm
Couchy wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:46 pm
wull wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:37 pm I’ll say it again. S22 or Rosso 3 and that’s it.
What about in the wet and cold ? Touring tyres are better
They’re fantastic in the wet and cold, heat up real quick and have good life. I’ve used them in all conditions on the road and also a few track days between 3 bikes, 1299s, S1000rr and GSXR 1000.

I started off with the Rosso 3 and couldn’t fault them, I then just for the sake of it tried the S22 because the wife went with the Rosso 3’s on her bike and I’ve kept using the S22’s. Only downside with them on track is they do move around a lot but that’s to be expected, but saves the hassle of sapping wheels or tyres just for a track day.
I love S22 as a road and occasional track tyre, but if no track use is needed and for all year round use touring tyres are better, they last longer too. My track bike has S22 on now and my road bike has PR4 😃👍
Demannu
Posts: 1882
Joined: Sat May 08, 2021 5:14 pm
Location: Another day without using algebra
Has thanked: 65 times
Been thanked: 1235 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Demannu »

Been using conti road attack 3 for the last 8 months.
Once I sorted out the running pressures to suit my riding style, awesome tyres.
Was out dragging the knee today in 12c temps and still got 5mm left after 3k hard miles.
User avatar
wull
Posts: 3065
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:09 pm
Location: Alloa
Has thanked: 880 times
Been thanked: 1544 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by wull »

If it was track only then then for me the S22 wouldn’t cut it, for the road and occasional track day then yeah they’re fine. Going by last year I’ll probably be doing two track days which is fine for the S22.
User avatar
Dodgy69
Posts: 5456
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:36 pm
Location: Shrewsbury
Has thanked: 1746 times
Been thanked: 2085 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Dodgy69 »

I always thought there's only two sorts of tyres. One's that work in the wet and ones that work in the wet. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Yamaha rocket 3
ninja
Posts: 122
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:13 am
Has thanked: 65 times
Been thanked: 87 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by ninja »

I've tried a couple of sets of new Michelins but they've felt vague compared to Pilot Power 2cts, so I always go back.

I haven't found anything better than PP2cts. Not sure what that says about my riding!
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12167
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9828 times
Been thanked: 10145 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Skub »

ninja wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:29 am I've tried a couple of sets of new Michelins but they've felt vague compared to Pilot Power 2cts, so I always go back.

I haven't found anything better than PP2cts. Not sure what that says about my riding!
That's my concern too. Once I find a tyre that works well for me,it makes me reluctant to try anything else. Don't fix what isn't broken.

I absolutely hate finding out I dislike a set of newly fitted tyres and then they seem to last forever! It happened me with a BT 014 years ago,what an awful tyre,it put me right off Bridgestone ever since.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
User avatar
rodbargee
Posts: 1021
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:30 pm
Location: N Yorks
Has thanked: 353 times
Been thanked: 980 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by rodbargee »

Pr5's but theyre expensive We'll see how we get on with them in Spain at the end of April. All good so far.
Supermofo
Posts: 5001
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:39 pm
Has thanked: 4360 times
Been thanked: 2851 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Supermofo »

Hard to say Skub as tyres are really personal things due to how they make you feel. For me I've had PR3, 4 and 5 and they've all been awesome on the road. They have the 'feel' that I first got from Mich Pilot Powers years ago but last a lot longer. I believe the PR4's and 5's have an updated shoulder compound from the PP2CT and you can actually see visually the difference in compound from soft/hard. In this pic you can see the outer 3rds are a different colour to the middle.

Image

In comparison the Dunlop D214 the GSXS has just come with feel like concrete when giving it the thumb test in the garage. Doing the same with the PR4/5's you could feel the rubber squidge. Before they were fitted you could also easily move the carcass of the tyre about as well which you couldn't on a set of BT023's the tyre guy had in the van as well. They were much stiffer.
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12167
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9828 times
Been thanked: 10145 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Skub »

Supermofo wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:14 am In comparison the Dunlop D214 the GSXS has just come with feel like concrete when giving it the thumb test in the garage.
Watch those tyres. I found they gripped ok when it was warm and dry,but wet or damp patches made the bike very nervy. I binned them before they were done. PPs were like a night and day difference,total confidence.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955
Supermofo
Posts: 5001
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:39 pm
Has thanked: 4360 times
Been thanked: 2851 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Supermofo »

Skub wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:02 pm
Supermofo wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:14 am In comparison the Dunlop D214 the GSXS has just come with feel like concrete when giving it the thumb test in the garage.
Watch those tyres. I found they gripped ok when it was warm and dry,but wet or damp patches made the bike very nervy. I binned them before they were done. PPs were like a night and day difference,total confidence.
Yeah will be careful on them esp in spring hoping they'll be good enough for a year at most and then I'll replace them. But yeah even feeling them in the garage made me apprehensive. If they are terrible I'll bin them but hoping they'll do for run in and then first summer.
User avatar
Skub
Posts: 12167
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:32 pm
Location: Norn Iron
Has thanked: 9828 times
Been thanked: 10145 times

Re: Sport touring tyres, what's hot and what's not?

Post by Skub »

Supermofo wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:25 pm Yeah will be careful on them esp in spring hoping they'll be good enough for a year at most and then I'll replace them. But yeah even feeling them in the garage made me apprehensive. If they are terrible I'll bin them but hoping they'll do for run in and then first summer.
I didn't find them terrible or unsafe,as I only used the bike on good days,but being caught in the odd shower wasn't confidence inspiring. There are others who thought they were shit in the dry too,but all I found was they tracked road imperfections like a bastard when they wore down a bit.
"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
Walt Whitman
https://soundcloud.com/skub1955