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Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:51 pm
by DefTrap
The external cage thing I would have thought would be bad for all sorts of reasons - catching on something in an off; noise?

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:37 pm
by Horse
DefTrap wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:51 pm The external cage thing I would have thought would be bad for all sorts of reasons - catching on something in an off; noise?
That's an American football helmet ;)

This is a biking lid: https://www.ruroc.com/home

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Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:45 pm
by DefTrap
Horse wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:37 pm
That's an American football helmet ;)

Gotcha. New glasses on order then!

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:43 pm
by Horse
lostboy wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:18 am I thought the rotational stuff had been dealt with by the MIPS system?

https://mipsprotection.com/moto
Mentioned here:



The relevant bit being that the Rheon liner deals with both impact and rotation, rather than the two being separate.

Also interesting that Rheon are involved with the brain injury research that's been going on at ICL for several years.

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:43 pm
by The Spin Doctor
dern wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:04 am Seems odd that they'd go to so much trouble to mitigate against injuries caused by rotational forces and then stick a bull bar on the front that looks like it was designed to catch on stuff and twist the head on impact.
The grill is to prevent a hand or elbow accidentally coming through the face opening. Due to rapidly growing concerns about head injuries and long term effects, te helmet is now pretty much out of bounds in American Football - you can't hit someone in the helmet, and you can't use the helmet to hit someone else... so the protection is against accidental impacts and falls where the head hits the ground.

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:44 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Horse wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:43 pm
lostboy wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:18 am I thought the rotational stuff had been dealt with by the MIPS system?

https://mipsprotection.com/moto
Mentioned here:



The relevant bit being that the Rheon liner deals with both impact and rotation, rather than the two being separate.

Also interesting that Rheon are involved with the brain injury research that's been going on at ICL for several years.
I'm hoping to have a chat with someone from the research team.

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:08 pm
by Horse
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:44 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:43 pm Rheon are involved with the brain injury research that's been going on at ICL for several years.
I'm hoping to have a chat with someone from the research team.
They've been working on a number of overlapping strands, including:
- analysis, using multi-camera high definition video recordings, of American footballers' impacts to assess forces suffered
- comparing those assessments against hospital records and brain scans
- cresting computer predictions of injury from impacts
- comparing those predictions against actual injuries
- doing the same sort of process for car occupant injuries, using in-car data recorders
- creating a new crash test dummy neck

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:21 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Horse wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:37 pm
This is a biking lid: https://www.ruroc.com/home
It's still ruddy ugly!

Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:39 pm
by Horse
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:21 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:37 pm
This is a biking lid: https://www.ruroc.com/home
It's still ruddy ugly!
Spin, looking at the outside of the helmet while wearing it ;)

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Re: Radically different helmet design

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:38 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Ha!