Lost some slow speed control

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Skub wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:02 pm Wtf was going on with those flickering lights on his bike? Very annoying for other road users,I'd imagine.
They dont flicker in real life, its the camera picking up the LED ;)

Happens on all You Tube vids with LED lights
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Skub wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:02 pm Wtf was going on with those flickering lights on his bike? Very annoying for other road users,I'd imagine.
It'll be LEDs. They look IRL as if they're on all the time, but they're actually flashing. If the camera's shutter is only open for a small fraction of a second (albeit 25 or 30 times a second), then some times the shutter will be open when the LED is 'off'.
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U-turning is admitting you’re going the wrong way. It’s almost as bad as asking directions.
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I drag the rear brake on slow manoeuvres, if that’s any help.
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JackyJoll wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:47 pm I drag the rear brake on slow manoeuvres, if that’s any help.
Yes, can be a useful technique. Allows higher revs to be used, helpful on some bikes, as long as the brake has sufficient 'feel'.

Refine it in a straight line first.
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I've seen people have great success standing on the pegs
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If you want to do really impressive U turns, stand on the pegs and power slide the back end round using the throttle.

I did this once on my Husky 610, unintentionally, then spent the rest of the evening making out it was planned, as I was doing it I was thinking this is gonna hurt.
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slowsider wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:08 pm I've seen people have great success standing on the pegs
Was it some show off twat at Gt Bentley on a Husky 610?
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No it was an old fella on a HP2
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slowsider wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:08 pm I've seen people have great success standing on the pegs
I did a control session for the local IAM group at a track day.

One guy did the figure of 8 while stood on the bike's seat.
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Horse wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:27 pm
slowsider wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:08 pm I've seen people have great success standing on the pegs
I did a control session for the local IAM group at a track day.

One guy did the figure of 8 while stood on the bike's seat.
One guy?

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Horse wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:54 pm
JackyJoll wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:47 pm I drag the rear brake on slow manoeuvres, if that’s any help.
Yes, can be a useful technique. Allows higher revs to be used, helpful on some bikes, as long as the brake has sufficient 'feel'.

Refine it in a straight line first.
From the DCT thread:
The Spin Doctor wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:08 pm
Dodgy knees wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:25 pm I've never ridden one so don't really know anything 😁, but with a clutch, you always have full control of drive. Horrible, dodgy hairpins where you need to slip the clutch or micro feed the power, your always in control, do these dcts achieve this same control. 🤷🏻‍♂️
You use the rear brake. I spent a day riding a 2019 NC750X DCT round hairpins in the Santa Monica mountains and it was perfectly controllable.

Just as I would on a clutched bike.
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slowsider wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:39 pm
Horse wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:27 pm
slowsider wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:08 pm I've seen people have great success standing on the pegs
I did a control session for the local IAM group at a track day.

One guy did the figure of 8 while stood on the bike's seat.
One guy?

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Nah, he was plod not army ;)
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I have an irrational fear of U turns. It might just be the phrase that does it - as soon as I think "U turn" or someone says "do a U turn" every muscle in my body tenses and I become ground focused. However, when I do them without thinking I can turn very tight, probably because I'm relaxed and looking up. I sometimes approach traffic lights and stops as slow as I can, particularly to annoy any bikers behind me as they have to ride at walking pace too :twisted: It's one of those games we play.

A lot of riding clubs do slow control days so have a look/ask around locally for those.
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Trinity765 wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 5:58 am I have an irrational fear of U turns. It might just be the phrase that does it - as soon as I think "U turn" or someone says "do a U turn" every muscle in my body tenses and I become ground focused. However, when I do them without thinking I can turn very tight, probably because I'm relaxed and looking up. I sometimes approach traffic lights and stops as slow as I can, particularly to annoy any bikers behind me as they have to ride at walking pace too :twisted: It's one of those games we play.

A lot of riding clubs do slow control days so have a look/ask around locally for those.
Practice practice and practice some more. As has been sad, feet up and don’t look down at the front wheel. Look where you want end up (head up). Busy revs, slip the clutch and dragging the back brake will help with stability.

Whacking it into a full lock u-turn from standstill is a skill few have.

I might be sad, but the other thing I practise relatively regularly are e-stops from speed. It’s nice to have some understanding of how the bike will behave when the shit hits the fan.
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wheelnut wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:55 am I practise relatively regularly are e-stops from speed. It’s nice to have some understanding of how the bike will behave when the shit hits the fan.
And if you have ABS, provoke it into working so that you know how it feels (and, often, find out how hard you can actually brake).

KNMV (Dutch) courses include riding off tarmac onto grass to find out about ABS.
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☝ Trackdayers need not apply.
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Horse wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:54 am
wheelnut wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:55 am I practise relatively regularly are e-stops from speed. It’s nice to have some understanding of how the bike will behave when the shit hits the fan.
And if you have ABS, provoke it into working so that you know how it feels (and, often, find out how hard you can actually brake).

KNMV (Dutch) courses include riding off tarmac onto grass to find out about ABS.
I was surprised how early my ABS cuts in on a slippery road, it's good to know what it feels like, the traction control is good as well, it's worth cracking the throttle open on gravel to feel what it does (this is how I unintentionally found out what mine does)
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Dodgy knees wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:01 am ☝ Trackdayers need not apply.
There was a tv series years ago where they took an assorted bunch of 'sports' motorcyclists and put them into a set of events, MX, track, etc.

The trials riders won.
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Do any bikes have the option to turn abs off up front. ???

On track it's bloody horrible, cuts in all the time on some bikes. On the road it's a great safety aid. 👍
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