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weeksy wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:18 am Knockhill in sunny Scotland this weekend. Due to tennis and cycling, you'll find the coverage on Quest this weekend

https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/news/2 ... e-on-quest

After a dominant weekend at Oulton, can we see the same again from the Yamaha man, or will Josh Brookes get some form back.

Bennetts British Superbike Championship standings after Round 1:

1. Jason O'Halloran (McAMS Yamaha) 75
2. Christian Iddon (VisionTrack Ducati) 60
3. Peter Hickman (FHO Racing BMW) 40
4. Tarran Mackenzie (McAMS Yamaha) 34
5. Tommy Bridewell (Oxford Products Racing Ducati) 32
6. Danny Buchan (SYNETIQ BMW) 25
7. Josh Brookes (VisionTrack Ducati) 25
8. Lee Jackson (FS-3 Kawasaki) 25

weeksy wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:57 pm Eh? Are you sure? Race 1 today?

Yorick wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:54 pm Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

Bigyin wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:43 am

Yorick wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:54 pm Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

I'll give you Iddon and O'Halloran are wrong side of 30 and where they will peak championship wise. Buchan is 28 but also not on the list for a world championship ride.

Brad Ray is 24, been on Suzuki's radar for a while as a possible on the world scene but jumping ship to BMW has probably burned those bridges

Rory Skinner is the one to watch ..... 19 years old, Talent cup winner, dominated Supersport to championship and already settling into the Superbike ride

weeksy wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:17 am

Looking at the pics there, people can't say we haven't got youngsters racing, clearly we have in the UK.. but it's how we get them from there into Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP that's the stumbling block.

weeksy wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:17 am

Bigyin wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:43 am

Yorick wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:54 pm Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

I'll give you Iddon and O'Halloran are wrong side of 30 and where they will peak championship wise. Buchan is 28 but also not on the list for a world championship ride.

Brad Ray is 24, been on Suzuki's radar for a while as a possible on the world scene but jumping ship to BMW has probably burned those bridges

Rory Skinner is the one to watch ..... 19 years old, Talent cup winner, dominated Supersport to championship and already settling into the Superbike ride

Exactly my point above... those lads are deffo on the right side of 30... Sure, they may never make the big-time but they're not too old for it.

The problem isn't BSBs fault, it's club racings fault. BSB run the Talent Cup in support classe, where a rider wins a Moto3 ride potentially. So there's BSB sticking in it's option for youngsters. But the club racers don't seem to cater as well for the younger lads, being very stuck in definitions of classes that worked well 10, 15 and 20 years ago. The problem being, none of their classes are suitable for bringing in new young talent and nurturing them to the top.
https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/support/2021/btc

Looking at the pics there, people can't say we haven't got youngsters racing, clearly we have in the UK.. but it's how we get them from there into Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP that's the stumbling block.

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:42 pm Is the point of either BSB or Club Racing to feed riders to MotoGP?

Personally I don't think so, BSB exists to make money for who ever runs it, it does this by being entertaining on the telly and attracting crowds, club racing exists to entertain the people who are paying for it, the racers.

Yorick wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 pm Just had my first proper look at Rory Skinner. I like him. He's still riding by the seat of his pants.

He could do very well

Bigyin wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:02 pm

Yorick wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:01 pm Just had my first proper look at Rory Skinner. I like him. He's still riding by the seat of his pants.

He could do very well

Kid has been around for years and should have been in the Moto3 grid 3 years ago winning the Talent cup and being Moto GP Red Bull Rookies. Somehow the money wasnt there for the ride that was available and he went back to square one with the family run bike back in the UK

Bigyin wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:59 pm

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:42 pm Is the point of either BSB or Club Racing to feed riders to MotoGP?

Personally I don't think so, BSB exists to make money for who ever runs it, it does this by being entertaining on the telly and attracting crowds, club racing exists to entertain the people who are paying for it, the racers.

Everybody has to start somewhere and thats at club level with the next progression normally to BSB (within its support races) as thats the National License class.

Chaz Davies, Casey Stoner, Sam and Alex Lowes all started in Superteens class at club level. Jake Dixon and Cal Crutchlow started on 600's at club level

All moved to BSB support race classes apart from Stoner. All then moved up into MotoGP or WSB paddocks .

One of the few exceptions to this was Scott Redding. He didnt do UK Club racing and straight into CEV hence his faster route into 125GP than probably any UK kid racer. When he came back to BSB he didnt know any of the circuits having only raced Donington and Silverstone.

The amount of money thrown at some kids at the club racing level is incredible and out of them 1 or 2 will make it to a decent BSB or support class ride each year. Out of all of those 1 or 2 will make it to a world championship paddock every 4-5 years