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I usually had aftermarket exhausts, but none were ridiculously loud (I don't think!). Living in a built up area I couldn't really have stupid loud - getting home from work after midnight and waking the neighbourhood wouldn't have been great!

But I liked them for the tone more than the decibels. Might have been fooling myself I suppose!!

I have a pair of Arrow silencers on my Monster, because they look better than the OE silencers

With the dB killers in it's not offensively loud, and at tickover the rattle from the clutch is loud enough to drown out the exhaust noise

Don’t get loud exhausts on the road, lots of them owned by shit riders and you can hear the crap throttle control they’ve got. Tbh it’s only one of the things that annoy me about a lot of people that ride bikes

I used to love watching at Cadwell club hairpin on the 2 stroke races. You'd hear 30 screaming banshee approaching at silly speeds.
Then silence as they all braked
Then the noise of a few scraping on the ground.
Then 30 screaming bikes heading up to Charlie's

Two strokes are relatively quiet, and the noise doesn't travel far, 4 strokes are much louder and because the sound is a lower frequency it travels further, and the bigger cylinders the lower the frequency.

But I do know what Yorick means about Cadwell Hairpin, the silence before the sound of plastic hitting tarmac was ominous.

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:33 pmand the bigger cylinders the lower the frequency.

I reckon its more the fact that the fourstrokes only fire half as often that lowers the frequency.
Thats why shitetalkers always claim twostrokes "rev to the moon, innit" despite the fact that for a given cylinder capacity per pot fourstrokes mostly rev harder.
How many twostrokes have oversquare bore and strokes? Look at the pistons, kind of long heavy slugs aren't they. Now look at a decent (not a Harley, Ha) modern fourstroke engine? The piston is all top with elongated thrust faces back and front but not much else.

Some people dont seem to read the numbers on revcounters.

This is true, I think my YPVS350 redlines at 9500 rpm, my FZR400 redlines at 15,000 rpm, both make about 50 bhp, the FZR is a lot louder, and the noise is a lot deeper.

Dad with ‘heart of gold’ stabbed to death ‘in fight over loud motorbike’

https://metro.co.uk/2021/04/15/norwich- ... -14416545/

Just the other day.

Couchy wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:36 pm Don’t get loud exhausts on the road, lots of them owned by shit riders and you can hear the crap throttle control they’ve got. Tbh it’s only one of the things that annoy me about a lot of people that ride bikes

It's a dead giveaway on a training course!

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:33 pm Two strokes are relatively quiet

But it happens to be the frequency that babies cry at, and the human ear is particularly sensitive to that frequency... probably not a coincidence.

Yorick wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:44 pm I used to love watching at Cadwell club hairpin on the 2 stroke races. You'd hear 30 screaming banshee approaching at silly speeds.
Then silence as they all braked
Then the noise of a few scraping on the ground.
Then 30 screaming bikes heading up to Charlie's

I know a few of these

Cadwell is tiring to ride, they needed a little lie down.
Looks like 1983

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:37 pm Cadwell is tiring to ride, they needed a little lie down.
Looks like 1983

1986. I was overseas that year.

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:44 pm

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:37 pm Cadwell is tiring to ride, they needed a little lie down.
Looks like 1983

1986. I was overseas that year.

This one's in 1983 though. And I'm in it

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:44 pm

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:37 pm Cadwell is tiring to ride, they needed a little lie down.
Looks like 1983

1986. I was overseas that year.

I guessed 83 because of the early power valves and no fully faired ones - but I forgot that in the 80s hardly anyone raced a new bike in club racing.

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:55 pm

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:44 pm

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:37 pm Cadwell is tiring to ride, they needed a little lie down.
Looks like 1983

1986. I was overseas that year.

I guessed 83 because of the early power valves and no fully faired ones - but I forgot that in the 80s hardly anyone raced a new bike in club racing.

Lots of folk had new or nearly new bikes. I got mine 2 months old with only 1 meeting.

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:26 pm

Yorick wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:44 pm I used to love watching at Cadwell club hairpin on the 2 stroke races. You'd hear 30 screaming banshee approaching at silly speeds.
Then silence as they all braked
Then the noise of a few scraping on the ground.
Then 30 screaming bikes heading up to Charlie's

I know a few of these

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If that's the week-end I'm thinking of, it was dry Saturday, wet Sunday. I crashed 3 times including once at the hairpin (I'm still on in that pic though) but got 3 trophies too , happy days eh

Yorick wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:26 pm

Yorick wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:44 pm I used to love watching at Cadwell club hairpin on the 2 stroke races. You'd hear 30 screaming banshee approaching at silly speeds.
Then silence as they all braked
Then the noise of a few scraping on the ground.
Then 30 screaming bikes heading up to Charlie's

I know a few of these

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Ah, the days when you could read race numbers!

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:07 pm Apparently one of the most popular things about Hybrid Ferraris, McLarens etc. is the fact you can leave silently. People in expensive country houses like being able to get 4 miles away before starting up their noisy V8.

Always better to be quiet in the area you're known in and if you're going to be a really loud cockend its best to do it somewhere else where they don't know you.

I guess my attitude to noise has become slightly (but not much) more anti than when I was a yoof. I remeber 4 or 5 of us, all with loud pipes, making a right racket in a tunnel back in the early 90s, but these days I ride with db killers in the Akras on the KTM Duke and Aprilia Falco, and standard exhausts on the VFR and LC. There is really nothing to be gained by unnecessarily winding up the general public with excessive exhaust noise.

But that's the 71 y.o. me talking. The 16 y.o. me would have had a totally different opinion...