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Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:04 pm
by weeksy
https://www.ktmforums.com/threads/my-89 ... ost-979341

landed in america !

Image25AAAB61-D45C-4296-9FE1-ED670AF127A9 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr

Still has a cable clutch, i thought they may have gone hydraulic on the new one.

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:25 pm
by Bomble
Look forward to the ride reports. They should put the 890 motor in the 690 sm imo :mrgreen:

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:35 pm
by weeksy
Bomble wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:25 pm Look forward to the ride reports. They should put the 890 motor in the 690 sm imo :mrgreen:
I'm sorry, where would you like me to send my £10,000 I'll be right over with it

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:40 pm
by Bomble
I'd be right behind you with mine :)

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:21 am
by weeksy
Yes but

Fuel capacity 12 litres

Bike weight 212kg

Along with Aprilia reliability and build quality issues, also not forgetting it just didn't look that good

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Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:23 pm
by Bomble
I don't think that photo does the Aprilia justice, i have always thought it's a great looking bike just heavy and underpowered apparently. I wouldnt buy one personally and I'm with Harry on the Ktm comparison :) I really struggle with how the modern Ktm's look.
I think the weight thing can be deceiving, when you push my hyper round it feels like a tank compared to a 690/701 but it's super agile when you ride it, could be the lightweight wheels maybe? Obviously its nothing like a proper moto.

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:20 pm
by Bigyin
weeksy wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:21 am Yes but

Fuel capacity 12 litres
That is its biggest problem ........ 60-70 mile range tops and less if you are wrist heavy on the throttle. E Man from VD had one and ended up sorting extra fuel containers on a rear rack just so he could venture up into the Highlands on a tour

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:33 pm
by Tricky
Bigyin wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:20 pm
weeksy wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:21 am Yes but

Fuel capacity 12 litres
That is its biggest problem ........ 60-70 mile range tops and less if you are wrist heavy on the throttle. E Man from VD had one and ended up sorting extra fuel containers on a rear rack just so he could venture up into the Highlands on a tour
Yup can imagine, and I thought the 790 might have that limitation as a tourer too when I got it, as it only has 14l.

I've never managed to get more than 12-odd in mine, but it is so fuel-efficient that gives an effective 150-mile range and is plenty for the sort of bikes my mates have, and with the addition of the little sports screen it turned out to be a quite brilliant little tourer 8-)
This is the trip summary from my blat up to and around the Highlands and back last year- my mates were on an S1000R and current model ZX10, the little 790 was never at the back and almost always at the front, so this figure was with the throttle near the stop for a lot of those miles
How the 790 manages to be so good on fuel beats me , although in fairness mine was "Hilltop-ed", so I guess that must have been it :D

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Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:11 am
by weeksy
Imageremus890 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:04 pm
by weeksy
neither really, just as a point of interest for Tricky.

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:27 pm
by Druid
weeksy wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:21 am Yes but

Fuel capacity 12 litres

Bike weight 212kg

Along with Aprilia reliability and build quality issues, also not forgetting it just didn't look that good

Image
I had one a couple of years ago and I really enjoyed it, except for the range. Fuel light would come on at 60-65 miles and it's not like there's a petrol station every few miles in the North Pennines. I had no issues with reliability but I had it less than a year and it was a fair weather toy

i thought it looked ok as well, certainly no worse than any KTM I've seen ;)

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:17 pm
by Tomcat
I've ridden a couple of 790s, a loaner from the shop and GP's at Pembrey (TYVM!). Very impressive machine though I felt it was a bit prone to pitching on high speed direction changes. Maybe a consequence of very light steering. Ugly as sin but I guess you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're stoking the fire (as a mate used to say on a slightly different subject). Does anyone need an extra 100cc? No, definitely not, it's already way too fast and too loony for the road, 100cc more won't really change that, but for the "must-haves" no amount of extra spending is too much. And it does mean there should be some reasonably priced 790s out there as the space cadets trade up ;)

Re: The Super Scalpel

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:19 pm
by weeksy
Tomcat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:17 pm I've ridden a couple of 790s, a loaner from the shop and GP's at Pembrey (TYVM!). Very impressive machine though I felt it was a bit prone to pitching on high speed direction changes. Maybe a consequence of very light steering. Ugly as sin but I guess you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're stoking the fire (as a mate used to say on a slightly different subject). Does anyone need an extra 100cc? No, definitely not, it's already way too fast and too loony for the road, 100cc more won't really change that, but for the "must-haves" no amount of extra spending is too much. And it does mean there should be some reasonably priced 790s out there as the space cadets trade up ;)
Due to then knocking out 790s at £6999 new, the used market is taking a bit of a hammering for them