Formula 1, 2021 season, tips, info, pics, thread.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Yeah 50g will be from the impact. F1 cars have impact g sensors, there's a light next to the cockpit which comes on if you go over a certain number (I think it's 50g actually, but don't quote me) to let the mashalls know it was a big shunt and they should take extra precautions when removing the driver.

It's the little light to the front left of the steering wheel by the "Circled N". The button next to it puts the car in neutral, hence the N.

[Demannu]

I would imagine that the 50g he sustained was for 0.000001s.
Still rather him than me mind you!

[Yorick]

Is there a correlation between falling off a building and hitting the ground. And sliding into a wall.

I know when you hit the ground you are still accelerating.

Just wonder how high you'd need to fall to hit 50g.

[Noggin]

I'm a bit gutted I missed it. Haven't really paid attention to F1 for years and didn't realise till too late it was Silverstone. And worse - couldn't find any highlights

[Tricky]

Is there a correlation between falling off a building and hitting the ground. And sliding into a wall.

I know when you hit the ground you are still accelerating.

Just wonder how high you'd need to fall to hit 50g.

I'm no mathematician of physicist, but I don't think you could simply by falling.
From memory of what my old parachuting instructors told me, terminal velocity for a human due to gravity alone is in the region of 120mph, and hitting a solid object at that speed would be a deceleration force of approx 4G

ISTR that 10G or so is about the maximum force most humans can tolerate for more than a few seconds before passing out and ultimately dying from lack of oxygen getting to the brain, so as Demannu says, am guessing that 50G must have been measured only for a very (very very) small amount of time

[Mr. Dazzle]

It depends entirely on how you stop.

You'll never ever fall at more than 1g. That's pretty much the definition! 1g is the rate at which objects in free fall accelerate on earth. Free fall means you're not under the influence of any force other than gravity, so it's pretty hard to achieve true free fall on earth 'cause you've generally got air resistance. But you'll never get higher than 1g unless you actively push downwards somehow (e.g. a rocket firing downwards).

In terms of hitting the floor...

If you jumped off a 5m wall - and ignoring air resistance - you'd hit the floor doing just under 10m/s (about 20mph).

If you then stopped over a distance of 50cm you'd need to pull an average of 10g to stop. Quite a lot still, but easily survivable. Decelerating over 50cm is about equal to what you'd do if you bent your legs isn't it?
If you stopped over only 5cm you'd need to pull 100g. That's enough to knock you out and probably do some serious injury.
Stopping over 5mm would require you to average 1000g. Fatal.

That's why you can survive a 5m fall if you bend your legs and roll - i.e. you spread out the slowing down - but you can't survive if it you land flat on your face.

Perhaps more intuitive though - to hit a wall/floor doing 160mph and ignoring the air resistance you'd need to be dropped from more than 250m up. So thrown out of a plane basically! It's impressive that these crashes are survivable.

[Mr Moofo]

Is there a correlation between falling off a building and hitting the ground. And sliding into a wall.

I know when you hit the ground you are still accelerating.

Just wonder how high you'd need to fall to hit 50g.

I did that calculation on another forum. To reach 160mph (ignoring wind resistance) you need to be falling from 260m.

In other words, drive off the top of a skyscraper and hit a stack of tyres on the ground. Most important thing is he went in sideways. Even with a well stacked tyre wall, I wouldn't want to try that crash twice, if the car had flipped, he could easily have been killed.

Max might be ok after a 50g deceleration. It would most likely kill me. Internal organ failure, broken neck, severe concussion etc.

These guys are fit as fuck to even be able to drive those things.

I suspect that Max's ego inflation device will have taken the sting from the impact by hitting the wall 3 m before him...

[Mr. Dazzle]

If you jumped off a 5m wall...

Where is this wall? Wormwood scrubs?

Can't imagine why you'd ever be climbing over and jumping off a wall in such a place

[MrLongbeard]

Was a smidge daft, but they're there to race not follow each other round.
As for 'you don't show a wheel @ Copse' 1 it was a while lot more car than a wheel, and LeClerc managed to mostly stay on the track when LH pulled his overtake of him at the same corner.

[Yorick]

From the overhead shot you could see LH kept a constant radius. MV tightened his line.

[Supermofo]

F1

Gonna need a lot more than 1 hat for you lot.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

From the overhead shot you could see LH kept a constant radius. MV tightened his line.

Isn't that following the racing line?

[Yorick]

From the overhead shot you could see LH kept a constant radius. MV tightened his line.

Isn't that following the racing line?

Depends where the racing line actually is.

[lostboy]

From the overhead shot you could see LH kept a constant radius. MV tightened his line.

Isn't that following the racing line?

Depends where the racing line actually is.

And if there's a car on it.

[Mr. Dazzle]

And if you go for the gap which was never there you're Roman Grosjean.

[Demannu]

I think someone should mention to MV, the great Fangio quote,
To finish first, first one must finish!
MV has a psychological weakness, which considering his age is no surprise. He wants to win the race in the first 5 laps.
Mercedes have finally sorted their car out this year, RB know this, and the clear advantage they had early season will evaporate.
MV will be WC one day, but I dont think it will be this year!

[Demannu]

But the race is won or lost on the first few laps. That is what F1 has become and why they are changing the rules.

Certainly was for MV yesterday

[Mr. Dazzle]

Seb Vettel made good use of the spare time he had following his DNF....

[Nidge]

I’ve just returned from a glorious 4 days at Silverstone. The excitement and added interest of the new format worked well IMO and there was plenty to cheer about the whole weekend (George Russell being cheered at every corner in quali was heartwarming). Loved the masters Pre 1966 support races - Lotus’s, Mustangs, E-types etc sideways through club was very entertaining, as was the sight and sound of Lewis Hamilton’s old V10 MacLaren (being auctioned and went for £4.2m) - as much as I admire the technical tour de force that the hybrid era has brought, there’s nothing to compare with a V10 on full chat.

The main feature races (F1 and F2) were thrilling and compelling- all in all a bloody good weekend

[lostboy]

A quick reminder of how "nowhere near level with him" he was.