Discussion within the US politics thread. Section closed. What to do with 'Current affairs/Politics' forum debate.

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cheb wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:43 pm I don't know if these are possible:

Don't allow the posts to be searched for, either on the site or by a search engine.
Posts automatically deleted after a set period. Two weeks maybe.
1. No
2. Confused.... Elaborate.... But don't think it's possible anyhow.
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1. No, you can't, or no you won't?
2. I post something today and in two weeks it falls off the bottom of the thread. Can't be searched for, can't be quoted.
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cheb wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:02 pm 1. No, you can't, or no you won't?
2. I post something today and in two weeks it falls off the bottom of the thread. Can't be searched for, can't be quoted.
1. No it's not possible.
2. I don't think that's possible either fella.
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Oh well.
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Definitely make that forum open to subscribers.
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Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:31 pm Definitely make that forum open to subscribers.
weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:13 pm A minor worry is that because they've then had to pay, they feel they have a right to post whatever they like.
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Harry wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:37 pm
weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:33 pm
Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:31 pm Definitely make that forum open to subscribers.
weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:13 pm A minor worry is that because they've then had to pay, they feel they have a right to post whatever they like.

It's closed to the general public.
Make it a members only section so they have to pay an extra £50 to enter.
Unregistered and unpaid people cannot get access, so no one will wander in accidentality and report anything.

Solved.
You're missing the point... Lets say they want to post in there and are non-members. They then throw in their pennies and post in there.

"You can't tell me what i can or can't post, i've paid money"
"yes i can"
"well i want my money back"

etc
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Why would anyone want to pay 50 to get into a shitfest?
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weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:13 pm
Rockburner wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:10 pm A possibly harsh option: make the 'Politics' forum available only to 'subscribed' users,
That's viable within the software yes. A minor worry is that because they've then had to pay, they feel they have a right to post whatever they like.
Rockburner wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:10 pm restrict the posting of videos in there (if possible?)
That may not be... but there's a lot of options, so possibly.
Rockburner wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:10 pm Ignore all complaints about posts in there apart from a regular (weekly?)
I get a surprising amount of emails/PMs, so filtering through them would take just as much time as ignoring them or actioning them.

Hmm - I did wonder how much pm-ing you'd receive. I was kinda hoping that the threat of the action might be enough to temper it down.
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Harry wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:15 pm
Whereas now they can do it for free and Weeksy has to spend his mornings cleaning up.
Well, not at the moment :)
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Could you raise money for the forum by requiring anyone who wants to post in politics has to solve repeated captcha puzzles, somebody must be profiting from AI* training.

*Insert obvious joke here.
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inewham wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:26 pm How many of the regulars (not occasional responders) in current affairs make a significant contribution else where?
Work out who they are because they'll be the members you lose.
Then decide if you can afford to lose them and if the answer is yes bin it.

The aim was to build a bike forum not replicate TRC and some losses are inevitable if you don't
I'm sure we know the answer to that...

What would have been nice though is if some had joined in the discussion in here regarding that section. Maybe in a way, defend their actions on a 'freedom of speech' or 'it's just banter' type thoughts, maybe even something like "this is a matter of importance because....". But as they're sitting silently i'm siting thinking "Why the fuck would i bother re-opening it"
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weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:32 pm
inewham wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:26 pm How many of the regulars (not occasional responders) in current affairs make a significant contribution else where?
Work out who they are because they'll be the members you lose.
Then decide if you can afford to lose them and if the answer is yes bin it.

The aim was to build a bike forum not replicate TRC and some losses are inevitable if you don't
I'm sure we know the answer to that...

What would have been nice though is if some had joined in the discussion in here regarding that section. Maybe in a way, defend their actions on a 'freedom of speech' or 'it's just banter' type thoughts, maybe even something like "this is a matter of importance because....". But as they're sitting silently i'm siting thinking "Why the fuck would i bother re-opening it"
Might depend on how they view the forum.....

I wouldn't have noticed this thread, apart from the fact that I use the 'new posts' search system, and it came up in that. If all the users do is open each sub-forum by it's link from the main list, they'll never see this discussion. (unless you've put a link in the Politics sub-forum, I've not looked).
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Rockburner wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:46 pm
weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:32 pm
inewham wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:26 pm How many of the regulars (not occasional responders) in current affairs make a significant contribution else where?
Work out who they are because they'll be the members you lose.
Then decide if you can afford to lose them and if the answer is yes bin it.

The aim was to build a bike forum not replicate TRC and some losses are inevitable if you don't
I'm sure we know the answer to that...

What would have been nice though is if some had joined in the discussion in here regarding that section. Maybe in a way, defend their actions on a 'freedom of speech' or 'it's just banter' type thoughts, maybe even something like "this is a matter of importance because....". But as they're sitting silently i'm siting thinking "Why the fuck would i bother re-opening it"
Might depend on how they view the forum.....

I wouldn't have noticed this thread, apart from the fact that I use the 'new posts' search system, and it came up in that. If all the users do is open each sub-forum by it's link from the main list, they'll never see this discussion. (unless you've put a link in the Politics sub-forum, I've not looked).
Well as the forum is locked over there, they've not had anything else to view if they don't look at the other things :)
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cheb wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:31 pm solve repeated captcha puzzles, somebody must be profiting from AI training.
Seen those 'which pictures have a sign' or 'vehicle' ones? I wouldn't be surprised if they are used to help develop automated driving systems.
Even bland can be a type of character :wave:
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Harry wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:15 pm
chillitt wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:10 pm Why would anyone want to pay 50 to get into a shitfest?
Exactly.

Whereas now they can do it for free and Weeksy has to spend his mornings cleaning up.
If you make them pay for the privilege then they'll move off to another free forum and leave this one alone.

The lefty whiners in that section of the forum are the freeloaders that don't subscribe to the forum and rarely (never in at least one case) ever contribute to the bike sections. So faced with having to put their hand in their pocket just to do some political whining they'll just move on to the next free forum to do it instead.

I think you do more trolling with this kind of language than anyone else on this site, then complain about people talking about politics, on threads about politics.
Don't open them then.
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demographic wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:16 pm
Harry wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:15 pm
chillitt wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:10 pm Why would anyone want to pay 50 to get into a shitfest?
Exactly.

Whereas now they can do it for free and Weeksy has to spend his mornings cleaning up.
If you make them pay for the privilege then they'll move off to another free forum and leave this one alone.

The lefty whiners in that section of the forum are the freeloaders that don't subscribe to the forum and rarely (never in at least one case) ever contribute to the bike sections. So faced with having to put their hand in their pocket just to do some political whining they'll just move on to the next free forum to do it instead.

I think you do more trolling with this kind of language than anyone else on this site, then complain about people talking about politics, on threads about politics.
Don't open them then.
That's the problem at times with the typed word and why 90% of the disagreements wouldn't happen in the outside world isn't it ? People post something to get a slight rise, to make a small point, it then escalates slightly and then a bit more and a bit more..

But i can't change the fact it's typed word, i'm well aware it's only that unless we do video conferencing :)
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Iccy and Demo. I've met you both. Good guys.

Let it drop and go talk motorbikes.
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Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:39 pm Iccy and Demo. I've met you both. Good guys.

Let it drop and go talk motorbikes.
Is the correct answer... Well, that or, pretty much anything else.

I'm heading out anyway.

With luck there'll still be 1-2 people left by the time i get back if the Mods haven't banned everyone.

They can't ban me ? can they ? Should i check that before i go out ?
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weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:41 pm
Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:39 pm Iccy and Demo. I've met you both. Good guys.

Let it drop and go talk motorbikes.
Is the correct answer... Well, that or, pretty much anything else.

I'm heading out anyway.

With luck there'll still be 1-2 people left by the time i get back if the Mods haven't banned everyone.

They can't ban me ? can they ? Should i check that before i go out ?
Probably depends on who's doing the Mod-ing. ;)
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