Tyres - which ones and where to buy?

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:05 pm See nominally I already knew that Spin...but knowing and doing are different :D

Sufficed to say I'll find some instruction if I can and ill spend my money on track time not tyres and QSs.
It's the discipline of actually doing that on track that counts for a lot. My self-restraint on the Paul Ricard lasted for all of half a lap, when the first bike outbraked me at the end of the Mistral. I followed him into the next sequence of bends and ran straight off the track :)

Just listening to Chris Walker, Shane Byrne and Leon Haslam - who all come down to Brands and talked to us on the Ride Skills days - helped quite a bit... although "I'm hitting about 140 here and just shifting up a gear" was something for my dreams :)
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I did the Ron Haslam school at Donnington years and years ago, before I even had a proper bike licence. I remember they had handily placed green, yellow and red cones for entry, apex and exit and i distinctly remember onr of the entrance being before you could even see the corner. ISTR maybe doing the one gear thing too, but honestly can't remember.

No idea what tyres they had.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:46 pm I did the Ron Haslam school at Donnington years and years ago, before I even had a proper bike licence. I remember they had handily placed green, yellow and red cones for entry, apex and exit and i distinctly remember onr of the entrance being before you could even see the corner. ISTR maybe doing the one gear thing too, but honestly can't remember.

No idea what tyres they had.
The blind entry is Coppice, the apex is uphill from the tip in point, which sounds like I know what I'm doing, but I'm dog slow round Donington, it requires a lot of bravery/knowledge to go fast at Donington.

Most trackdays I've been to have cones for entry, apex and exit, just remember to join them up in smooth arcs, not just aim for them.
I doubt if there's many bikes under 500cc you could do a complete lap of a UK track on in one gear, unless you're going to go round the whole track in 2nd or 3rd gear, a CBR600 isn't going to be much better.
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:12 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:46 pm I did the Ron Haslam school at Donnington years and years ago, before I even had a proper bike licence. I remember they had handily placed green, yellow and red cones for entry, apex and exit and i distinctly remember onr of the entrance being before you could even see the corner. ISTR maybe doing the one gear thing too, but honestly can't remember.

No idea what tyres they had.
The blind entry is Coppice, the apex is uphill from the tip in point, which sounds like I know what I'm doing, but I'm dog slow round Donington, it requires a lot of bravery/knowledge to go fast at Donington.
2:55 is tipping into Coppice :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_AazAdVrew
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My memory is that it's less visible than that, maybe I wasn't looking in the right place
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Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:18 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:12 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:46 pm I did the Ron Haslam school at Donnington years and years ago, before I even had a proper bike licence. I remember they had handily placed green, yellow and red cones for entry, apex and exit and i distinctly remember onr of the entrance being before you could even see the corner. ISTR maybe doing the one gear thing too, but honestly can't remember.

No idea what tyres they had.
The blind entry is Coppice, the apex is uphill from the tip in point, which sounds like I know what I'm doing, but I'm dog slow round Donington, it requires a lot of bravery/knowledge to go fast at Donington.
2:55 is tipping into Coppice :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_AazAdVrew
Well....there is someone who knows how to exit a corner, or just has shit loads more power than everyone else. ;)
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:25 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:18 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:12 pm

The blind entry is Coppice, the apex is uphill from the tip in point, which sounds like I know what I'm doing, but I'm dog slow round Donington, it requires a lot of bravery/knowledge to go fast at Donington.
2:55 is tipping into Coppice :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_AazAdVrew
Well....there is someone who knows how to exit a corner, or just has shit loads more power than everyone else. ;)
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I'm taking the piss...its pretty impressive how you just blitz past out of everyone coming out of every corner. Which group is that?
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:29 pm I'm taking the piss...its pretty impressive how you just blitz past out of everyone coming out of every corner. Which group is that?
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Did your student keep up ???
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Dodgy knees wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:13 pm Did your student keep up ???
I just did a few steady laps showing brakes, throttle clutch etc. Also to show how much the bars turn before and during a corner. That's why you need loose arms to let the bike do it's own thing.

Can't go quick with bloody great camcorder gaffer taped to the tank ;)
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Yorick wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:16 pm
Dodgy knees wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:13 pm Did your student keep up ???
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Can't go quick with bloody great camcorder gaffer taped to the tank ;)
2013 :D

I've done similar with an old VHS.
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Look what turned up when I was doing some tidying...

This is the last time I rode at Donington and the second time i did the RH school. The first time was when I was 17 (I think) and still on my 33bhp restriction, the second time was 2-3 years later when my mum got a free ticket after buying a new CBR. By the second time I went there they'd upgraded to the (then new) CBR600RR.

I think this is actually the blind entry corner in question?

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