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Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 2:43 pm
by Skub
Clever stuff man. 8-)

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 3:10 pm
by Dave G
Skub wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 2:43 pm Clever stuff man. 8-)
Thanks

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 3:28 pm
by Taipan
Dave G wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:44 pm Maybe this isn't the right place for this kind of stuff!
Might have got a wider audience in the mechanics section, or just tagged onto your bikes thread? But interesting stuff anyway. :thumbup:

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 4:05 pm
by Dave G
Taipan wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 3:28 pm
Dave G wrote: Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:44 pm Maybe this isn't the right place for this kind of stuff!
Might have got a wider audience in the mechanics section, or just tagged onto your bikes thread? But interesting stuff anyway. :thumbup:
Thanks for feedback, I'll post this kind of stuff in the Mechanics section in future, not sure how to tag onto my bike!. Cheers

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:56 pm
by porter_jamie
How did you determine your advance curve? Do you use tps? You map to mbt or just copy the old ecu?

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:59 pm
by porter_jamie
Ps i like the fantic

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:13 pm
by Dave G
porter_jamie wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:56 pm How did you determine your advance curve? Do you use tps? You map to mbt or just copy the old ecu?
Ultimately running the bike on a dyno will determine the best setting!. At the moment I have the standard map from the Otom NC450 CDI and can switch to the base Nibbi racing map which I intend to experiment with. I am using an Nibbi FCR39 carburettor that has a TPS but the Ignitech dccdip doesn't have an input to use it. I might purchase this Ignitech race CDI which does.

https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/dccd ... 1_race.htm

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:20 pm
by Dave G
porter_jamie wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 5:59 pm Ps i like the fantic
What is map to mbt?

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:21 pm
by porter_jamie
Min timing for best torque

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:43 pm
by Dave G
porter_jamie wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:21 pm Min timing for best torque
Thanks for reminding me, I expect to keep advancing the ignition timing until torque stops increasing then back it off slightly

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 8:15 pm
by porter_jamie
any news?

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 8:15 pm
by porter_jamie
Dave G wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:43 pm
porter_jamie wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 7:21 pm Min timing for best torque
Thanks for reminding me, I expect to keep advancing the ignition timing until torque stops increasing then back it off slightly
assuming you are not det limited

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 10:42 pm
by Dave G
Need better weather before I start modifying map B but that's when the fun will start.

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:49 pm
by Dave G
The engine in the Cabby is a Zongshen NC450S which is also fitted to to the Kove 450 Rally. A stepped woodruff key is available for the Kove which advances the timing by 4 degrees and apparently gives good power gain but poor starting.

https://www.kovepower.com/store/p312/Jo ... key.html#/

As a starting point I'll probably advance the timing by 4 degrees from about 2000rpm up to the 12000rpm limiter. Hopefully not modifying the lower rpm will mean no starting issues but I will need to keep an eye on the overall engine temp,

Red is current B Map, Blue is proposed B Map.

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 4:56 pm
by Dave G
Anybody fancy a go?. Maybe I can help, just send a PM.

Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2026 2:35 am
by Dave G
Share permissions changed, hope that the PDF is now accessible!


Re: CDI READING,MAP PLOTTING AND PROGRAMMING

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2026 2:28 pm
by Dave G
Just added an extension to the CDI port so that I don't have to remove the seat each time that I need to access it. This is what I did.
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