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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:29 pm I'm not sure keto is particularly healthy. Maybe an ok way to lose weight over a brief period but I wouldn't want to do it for long.

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:33 pm FWIW I don't think reducing carbs (other than sugar) is actually healthy. Others may disagree.

Anyway, good luck with it. You have to find what works for you.

MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:12 pm

Noggin wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:55 pm I recently found out that if you cook pasta and rice then cool and fridge for 24 hours it changes the carb structure (no idea of the correct phraseology - this is loosely 'translated' from what a friend and my SDad told me !!). So you reheat it the next day and it's no longer as carby or as bad (both or one or the other !! )

Apparently it changes them into 'resistant' carbs which the body can't / struggles to break down into glucose, not sure if it still applies if you reheat them food though, not something I've looked into that deeply as I find it easier to just go without

You are probably familiar with the idea that pasta is a form of carbohydrate and like all carbohydrates it gets broken down in your guts and then absorbed as simple sugars, which in turn makes your blood glucose soar.

In response to a surge in blood glucose our bodies produce a rush of the hormone insulin to get your blood glucose back down to normal as swiftly as possible, because persistently high levels of glucose in the blood are extremely unhealthy.

A rapid rise in blood glucose, followed by a rapid fall, can often make you feel hungry again quite soon after a meal. It's true of sugary sweets and cakes, but it's also true for things like pasta, potatoes, white rice and white bread. That's why dieticians emphasise the importance of eating foods that are rich in fibre, as these foods produce a much more gradual rise and fall in your blood sugars.

But what if you could change pasta or potatoes into a food that, to the body, acts much more like fibre? Well, it seems you can. Cooking pasta and then cooling it down changes the structure of the pasta, turning it into something that is called "resistant starch".

It's called "resistant starch" because once pasta, potatoes or any starchy food is cooked and cooled it becomes resistant to the normal enzymes in our gut that break carbohydrates down and releases glucose that then causes the familiar blood sugar surge.

So, according to scientist Dr Denise Robertson, from the University of Surrey, if you cook and cool pasta down then your body will treat it much more like fibre, creating a smaller glucose peak and helping feed the good bacteria that reside down in your gut. You will also absorb fewer calories, making this a win-win situation.

One obvious problem is that many people don't really like cold pasta. So what would happen if you took the cold pasta and warmed it up?

When we asked scientists this question they said that it would probably go back to its previous, non-resistant form, but no-one had actually done the experiment. So we thought we should.]Dr Chris van Tulleken roped in some volunteers to do the tests. The volunteers had to undergo three days of testing in all, spread out over several weeks. On each occasion they had to eat their pasta on an empty stomach.

The volunteers were randomised to eating either hot, cold or reheated pasta on different days.

On one day they got to eat the pasta, freshly cooked, nice and hot with a plain but delicious sauce of tomatoes and garlic.

On another day they had to eat it cold, with the same sauce, but after it had been chilled overnight.

And on a third day they got to eat the pasta with sauce after it had been chilled and then reheated.

On each of the days they also had to give blood samples every 15 minutes for two hours, to see what happened to their blood glucose as the pasta was slowly digested.

So what did happen?

Well we were fairly confident the cold pasta would be more resistant than the stuff that had been freshly cooked and we were right.

Just as expected, eating cold pasta led to a smaller spike in blood glucose and insulin than eating freshly boiled pasta had.

But then we found something that we really didn't expect - cooking, cooling and then reheating the pasta had an even more dramatic effect. Or, to be precise, an even smaller effect on blood glucose.

In fact, it reduced the rise in blood glucose by 50%.

This certainly suggests that reheating the pasta made it into an even more "resistant starch". It's an extraordinary result and one never measured before.

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:29 pm I'm not sure keto is particularly healthy. Maybe an ok way to lose weight over a brief period but I wouldn't want to do it for long.

katana wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:45 am

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:29 pm I'm not sure keto is particularly healthy. Maybe an ok way to lose weight over a brief period but I wouldn't want to do it for long.

The more often you express your same opinion, in a thread that is a more sepcific thread and not some general banter seems to be you have an opinion.

Might be better to mention it once, move on and not keep coming back to repeat the same thing as it is just tiresome.

One obvious problem is that many people don't really like cold pasta.

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:49 am

katana wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:45 am

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:29 pm I'm not sure keto is particularly healthy. Maybe an ok way to lose weight over a brief period but I wouldn't want to do it for long.

The more often you express your same opinion, in a thread that is a more sepcific thread and not some general banter seems to be you have an opinion.

Might be better to mention it once, move on and not keep coming back to repeat the same thing as it is just tiresome.

"The more often you express your same opinion, in a thread that is a more sepcific thread and not some general banter seems to be you have an opinion."

MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:52 am

One obvious problem is that many people don't really like cold pasta.

Was my immediate thought, same with rice & potatoes, but then I go and buy a cold pasta salad today, and remembering my SiL makes a mean cold rice n peas dish.
Cold potato salad can do one though.

MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:52 am

katana wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:03 am

MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:49 am

katana wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:45 am

The more often you express your same opinion, in a thread that is a more sepcific thread and not some general banter seems to be you have an opinion.

Might be better to mention it once, move on and not keep coming back to repeat the same thing as it is just tiresome.

"The more often you express your same opinion, in a thread that is a more sepcific thread and not some general banter seems to be you have an opinion."

Would you prefer I say shut the fuck up as you know fuck all about this. Yet you keep offering your opinion like it means something. There are quite a few scientific studies touched on by Dr Micheal Mosely in his trust me I'm a doctor series that show you are wrong. Mentioned these are they are easily available on iPlayer. But feel free to show me your qualifications to make your opinion on carb restricting / calorie restricting diet worth repeating.

Looking at this, why are you repeating the same opinion on a thread? Would you do the same on a mechanic thread? So why are you doing it on this one?

MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:42 pm @katana liver function yes, been having those while due to blood pressure meds, c peptide no idea, GTT nope.

Dr's were very not overly concerned as I'm only just on the prediabetic scale and the test of my bloods were in normal ranges, they seem to be saying lets do this prediabetic course with a health coach and see what the numbers say after and go from there.

Count Steer wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:24 pm you shouldn't need to turn your diet/life upside down.

MrLongbeard wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:46 pm

Count Steer wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:24 pm you shouldn't need to turn your diet/life upside down.

Yeah I do, OK maybe not upside down but I really should get my shit together.

MrLongbeard wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:59 pm doc said pre-diabetic, just checked notes and it lists me as Non-diabetic hyperglycaemia with a HbA1c level of 42mmol/mol, I'll do the work and see what comes out of it down the road.