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[slowsider]

Minimum alcohol unit pricing doesn't work.
So normal people are spending less while alcoholics suck it up and spend more to maintain their habit. Everyone loses apart from pricey booze manufacturers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61710564

'Normal' people? I'm not spending less, the booze I buy is not affected by minimum pricing.

[Mussels]

Minimum alcohol unit pricing doesn't work.
So normal people are spending less while alcoholics suck it up and spend more to maintain their habit. Everyone loses apart from pricey booze manufacturers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61710564

'Normal' people? I'm not spending less, the booze I buy is not affected by minimum pricing.

Normal as in non-alcoholics, not filthy rich people who can afford £10 bottles of wine.

[Rockburner]

Minimum alcohol unit pricing doesn't work.
So normal people are spending less while alcoholics suck it up and spend more to maintain their habit. Everyone loses apart from pricey booze manufacturers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61710564

'Normal' people? I'm not spending less, the booze I buy is not affected by minimum pricing.

Normal as in non-alcoholics, not filthy rich people who can afford £10 bottles of wine.

I'm filthy rich??

feck me, who knew!

Drugs and hookers here I come!!

[slowsider]

Minimum alcohol unit pricing doesn't work.
So normal people are spending less while alcoholics suck it up and spend more to maintain their habit. Everyone loses apart from pricey booze manufacturers.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61710564

'Normal' people? I'm not spending less, the booze I buy is not affected by minimum pricing.

Normal as in non-alcoholics, not filthy rich people who can afford £10 bottles of wine.

Over €3 tax/duty on a bottle of wine in Ireland - normal people who don't like vinegar have to up their game.

[Horse]

Normal as in non-alcoholics, not filthy rich people who can afford £10 bottles of wine.

I only buy when it's on special offer, even then buy six to get extra discount.

And even then, it's typically well under £10 full price

[slowsider]

I know how potter feels now

[Horse]

I know how potter feels now

What, squidgy, or ... ?

[wheelnut]

I know how potter feels now

You mean you pay £10 for a bottle of wine? Flash Bastard!

[Yorick]

Only in America

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61763333

[Saga Lout]

Only in America

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61763333

No doubt coming to a court in the UK within 5 years.

Where America leads...

[JackyJoll]

They’re stealing petrol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61770710

Hope it’s no-one here!

[Mussels]

They’re stealing petrol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61770710

Hope it’s no-one here!

They are lumping in people who can't pay for some reason and leave their details so there may not be an increase in theft at all. Probably is but why don't they distinguish between the groups.

[JackyJoll]

They’re stealing petrol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61770710

Hope it’s no-one here!

They are lumping in people who can't pay for some reason and leave their details so there may not be an increase in theft at all. Probably is but why don't they distinguish between the groups.

You reckon forgetting wallets has increased since January?

[slowsider]

They’re stealing petrol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61770710

Hope it’s no-one here!

They are lumping in people who can't pay for some reason and leave their details so there may not be an increase in theft at all. Probably is but why don't they distinguish between the groups.

Filling your tank without the means to pay is theft. The drive-offs will still had their reg recorded.

[Mussels]

They’re stealing petrol.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61770710

Hope it’s no-one here!

They are lumping in people who can't pay for some reason and leave their details so there may not be an increase in theft at all. Probably is but why don't they distinguish between the groups.

Filling your tank without the means to pay is theft. The drive-offs will still had their reg recorded.

I believe theft needs to have intent, if they weren't intending to take it without paying then it isn't theft.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I believe theft needs to have intent, if they weren't intending to take it without paying then it isn't theft.

Years and years ago my Uncle had a lodger who "borrowed" my Uncle's bike without permission, then wrote it off.

In the end he didn't get charged with any crime because 'they' concluded that the lodger had always intended to bring the bike back even though he didn't have permission to take it, therefore it wasn't theft.

[Horse]

Years and years ago my Uncle had a lodger who "borrowed" my Uncle's bike without permission, then wrote it off.

In the end he didn't get charged with any crime because 'they' concluded that the lodger had always intended to bring the bike back even though he didn't have permission to take it, therefore it wasn't theft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_wi ... 7s_consent

[slowsider]

The robots are coming

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ke-lemoine

[Mussels]

The robots are coming

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ke-lemoine

Somewhere else the developer that programmed that response is pissing himself laughing but daren't tell anyone.

[Mussels]

Arron Banks loses Russia libel case against Carole Cadwalladr
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61782578

Libel in the UK confuses me, the judge said that the statement was untrue and damaging but OK as it's in the public interest.
Why does public interest remove the need for a statement to be true?

I have little interest in the people involved, just the reasoning.