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[Lutin]

This must be one of the most idiotic ideas the tories have come up with yet and will do nothing to combat the people smugglers.

In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?

If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help

The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.


Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?

[JamJar]

This must be one of the most idiotic ideas the tories have come up with yet and will do nothing to combat the people smugglers.

In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?

If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help

The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.


Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?

If a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.

[KungFooBob]

At least he weather is nicer in Rwanda.

[Noggin]

If a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.

This doesn't make sense. Apart from the bizarre idea of accepting refugees only to 'ship them on', surely this will be far more expensive that just accepting the refugees in the UK?

[MrLongbeard]

If a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.

This doesn't make sense. Apart from the bizarre idea of accepting refugees only to 'ship them on', surely this will be far more expensive that just accepting the refugees in the UK?

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

[Noggin]

If a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.

This doesn't make sense. Apart from the bizarre idea of accepting refugees only to 'ship them on', surely this will be far more expensive that just accepting the refugees in the UK?

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

Yup, that does make sense.

I am so glad I found somewhere else to live. Hopefully by the time that LePenn changes this country to be like the UK (France is generally 20 odd years behind!) I'll be too old to notice

[slowsider]

This must be one of the most idiotic ideas the tories have come up with yet and will do nothing to combat the people smugglers.

In the unlikely event that any asylum seeker is successful, under this new scheme, I presume that the UK will then fly the individual back to UK. But what of the unsuccessful candidates? Are they told to make their own way home or are they to be transported elsewhere? And where exactly is elsewhere?

If the UK were to desist on selling weapons that destabilise countries and their economies in the first place it would help

The tories piling idiocy on stupidity on incompetence.


Edit: Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?

If a person is successful in their application they are give Rwandan residency and are not given UK asylum! Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.

It's not like Rwanda has ever had issues with minority ethnic groups...

[slowsider]

This doesn't make sense. Apart from the bizarre idea of accepting refugees only to 'ship them on', surely this will be far more expensive that just accepting the refugees in the UK?

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

Yup, that does make sense.

I am so glad I found somewhere else to live. Hopefully by the time that LePenn changes this country to be like the UK (France is generally 20 odd years behind!) I'll be too old to notice

Your snow-white eyrie is not exactly one of the banlieues, is it?

[DefTrap]

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

Are we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?

[Horse]

Has anyone even asked if Rwanda are prepared to accept an unknown number of disaffected, homeless and penniless young men?

!Rwanda are being paid £120 million for this initial trial and if it "works" they will be paid millions more to continue.

Plus a few quid to cover costs back here?

Presumably someone has done some sums to show this is cheaper.

[JamJar]

Plus a few quid to cover costs back here?

Presumably someone has done some sums to show this is cheaper.

With this current Government I will assume that cost is irrelevant and that they will have picked personal contacts to benefit from this financially.

[Horse]

they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

£120M for even a 1000 makes it a bargain ... Err ... Doesn't it? ??? (And that's not including ongoing costs and new costs incurred - border staff, flights, support staff, legal, etc)

Have to wonder what current costs actually are?

[MrLongbeard]

they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

£120M for even a 1000 makes it a bargain ... Err ... Doesn't it? ??? (And that's not including ongoing costs and new costs incurred - border staff, flights, support staff, legal, etc)

Have to wonder what current costs actually are?

To be honest and up front, and only replying as you quoted me, I really don't care and I'm not going to put any effort into finding anything about it out.

[irie]

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

Are we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?

Or back to France, or wherever they first entered the EU, where according to EU law (the Dublin Regulation) they should have claimed asylum long before they travelled "in small boats"? Now there's a novel idea. Not.

[JamJar]

It makes perfect sense, they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

Or that's my take on it anyway.

Are we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?

Or back to France, or wherever they first entered the EU, where according to EU law (the Dublin Regulation) they should have claimed asylum before they travelled "in small boats"? Now there's a novel idea. Not.

We left the EU.

[irie]

Are we sure this isn't an April Fools - it's so dark it's almost funny. Like everything this government does, it constructs a scheme that will cost tens of millions to set up and is destined to fail (because with threats you actually have to be prepared to go through with it) and yet one that appeals to the cruel, immigrant-hating masses. Well, "those types that cross in small boats" anyway, and we know who those are. Taking send-the-buggers-home to new depths. They haven't really thought this through - isn't there anywhere any further they could send them? South Pole? Down a mine shaft?

Or back to France, or wherever they first entered the EU, where according to EU law (the Dublin Regulation) they should have claimed asylum before they travelled "in small boats"? Now there's a novel idea. Not.

We left the EU.

So what?

The EU is not applying its own laws.

[JamJar]

So what?

The EU is not applying its own laws.

The EU law is about people seeking asylum in the EU, these people aren't seeking asylum in the EU.

[Hoonercat]

they're hoping that once word gets out that as soon as you land in blighty you'll be shipped to Rwanda that the number of people trying to come here will drop, they're not really expecting to send 1000's over there.

£120M for even a 1000 makes it a bargain ... Err ... Doesn't it? ??? (And that's not including ongoing costs and new costs incurred - border staff, flights, support staff, legal, etc)

Have to wonder what current costs actually are?

According to the BBC report, the facility in Rwanda has space for around 100 people and will be able to process up to 500 per year. An earlier report gave an estimate of £1.2 billion per year should the scheme go ahead in full

Boris:
driven by our shared humanitarian impulse

BBC:
At the UN last year, the UK demanded investigations into alleged killings, disappearances and torture.

[Yambo]

Meanwhile, UNESCO are concerned that the UK will allow women and children refugees from Ukraine to be lodged with single men.

What a sad fucking country the UK must appear to be to the rest of the world.

[Mussels]

Meanwhile, UNESCO are concerned that the UK will allow women and children refugees from Ukraine to be lodged with single men.

What a sad fucking country the UK must appear to be to the rest of the world.

UNESCO saying that doesn't mean the UK is doing that, just maybe the UK is checking and that's why it's taking such an unacceptably long time to grant visas.