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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:58 pm
by Couchy
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:50 pm
Couchy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:48 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Is it 4wd, do you need 4wd or the ground clearance ? What's wrong with an estate car ?
There's some irony in that much of what gets called an SUV these days is neither sporty nor utilitarian.
People buy what they want but when a vehicle is more expensive, less economical and less safe why would you just because it looks cooler to you ?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:00 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Couchy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:58 pm
People buy what they want but when a vehicle is more expensive, less economical and less safe why would you just because it looks cooler to you ?
It's a good thing you don't work for the OEMs

They love an SUV, they can charge more for something that basically costs no extra to make just because people think they're cool.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:07 pm
by Count Steer
Greenman wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:31 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Yes, the ugliest SUV ever made....
Oh, I'd say it's got a way to go before it challenges the Lada Niva for that title.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:26 pm
by Horse
Count Steer wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:07 pm
Greenman wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:31 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Yes, the ugliest SUV ever made....
Oh, I'd say it's got a way to go before it challenges the Lada Niva for that title.
Or the G Wagon?

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:29 pm
by Pirahna
Couchy wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:48 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Is it 4wd, do you need 4wd or the ground clearance ? What's wrong with an estate car ?
Just the ground clearance, it'll be 2wd. A normal estate would be fine, with either a lift kit or under body protection.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:35 pm
by Slenver
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:29 pm
Just the ground clearance, it'll be 2wd. A normal estate would be fine, with either a lift kit or under body protection.
Or just get a 911 Dakar.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:38 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Someone at Porsche needs shooting for that "Roughroads" thing.
Other than that, top marks to them.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:39 pm
by Yorick
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Need to learn the secret handshake brother

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:39 pm
by Pirahna
Slenver wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:35 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:29 pm
Just the ground clearance, it'll be 2wd. A normal estate would be fine, with either a lift kit or under body protection.
Or just get a 911 Dakar.
If I had £250k to spend on a car I would, I know how much they are because I looked at the Porsche site a couple of evenings ago. Still not as much ground clearance as a Duster though.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:44 pm
by cheb
Slenver wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:22 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:14 pm
Plus you can actually park it.
It's half way between comedy and tragedy, watching all the mums and dads (and it is both) failing to manoeuvre their X5s and Cayennes around the school car park.
In her defence, my missus is a very good driver and has had all kinds of tanks in the past with no trouble. But, as discussed before, cars are getting bigger and parking spaces and roads are not.
There are only so many Waitrose spaces that'll comfortably fit a 2m+ wide SUV.
Lots of them will take a swb Transit sized van though. I used to delight in parking mine in an Edinburgh multi storey, there was a huge sign stating 'Suitable for small cars only', it was a length and not a width thing.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:45 pm
by Yorick
Greenman wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:31 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Yes, the ugliest SUV ever made....
Ours looks cool

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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:47 pm
by Slenver
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:39 pm
If I had £250k to spend on a car I would, I know how much they are because I looked at the Porsche site a couple of evenings ago. Still not as much ground clearance as a Duster though.
Not at all! A mere snip at £173k...
Ground clearance is nearly the same but a little lower than a Duster, yes. 191mm compared to 210mm. But you'd get there quicker.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm
by Pirahna
Slenver wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:47 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:39 pm
If I had £250k to spend on a car I would, I know how much they are because I looked at the Porsche site a couple of evenings ago. Still not as much ground clearance as a Duster though.
Not at all! A mere snip at £173k...
Ground clearance is actually about the same, albeit with a cost option to extend it more than standard.
Ground clearance on the Porsche is 161mm, on the Duster it's 210mm.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:56 pm
by Slenver
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm
Ground clearance on the Porsche is 161mm, I think there's an option to add another 20mm, on the Duster it's 210mm.
An option for another 30mm, yeah, but it's just a switch. Can only be used up to 106mph though, and then will automatically lower again

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:57 pm
by Yorick
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:53 pm
Slenver wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:47 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:39 pm
If I had £250k to spend on a car I would, I know how much they are because I looked at the Porsche site a couple of evenings ago. Still not as much ground clearance as a Duster though.
Not at all! A mere snip at £173k...
Ground clearance is actually about the same, albeit with a cost option to extend it more than standard.
Ground clearance on the Porsche is 161mm, on the Duster it's 210mm.
Being short wheelbase, it goes over everything you want.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:02 pm
by Greenman
Yorick wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:45 pm
Greenman wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:31 pm
Pirahna wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:09 pm
I'm just about to buy a Dacia Duster, I suppose that counts as an SUV.
Yes, the ugliest SUV ever made....
Ours looks cool
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My neighbour has just bought one and it looks hideous. Maybe personal taste. It's got Aria Tuning or something along the side of it with go faster white stripes, i literally nearly threw up the first time i walked past it...

It sits higher than me on a friday night too!
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:47 am
by Pirahna
The Duster has been purchased. It's a brand new Prestige 2 wheel drive 2022 model, so not the latest one with new graphics and diesel because it was it stock at the dealer. Got a bit off because it's the old model, €22k which isn't too bad. I'll collect it next week.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:19 am
by Yorick
Pirahna wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:47 am
The Duster has been purchased. It's a brand new Prestige 2 wheel drive 2022 model, so not the latest one with new graphics and diesel because it was it stock at the dealer. Got a bit off because it's the old model, €22k which isn't too bad. I'll collect it next week.
Blimey. They've gone up a bit.
Our top of range 4WD was €17k 5 years ago.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:32 am
by Pirahna
Yorick wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:19 am
Pirahna wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:47 am
The Duster has been purchased. It's a brand new Prestige 2 wheel drive 2022 model, so not the latest one with new graphics and diesel because it was it stock at the dealer. Got a bit off because it's the old model, €22k which isn't too bad. I'll collect it next week.
Blimey. They've gone up a bit.
Our top of range 4WD was €17k 5 years ago.
That's pretty much as cheap as you'll get a Duster for. The 23 model has got a few changes and would have been €700 more plus a 3 to 4 month wait. The 24 model will probably be a hybrid (you can already order a hybrid Jogger) and will step up in price again.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:40 pm
by cheb
Top of the range Dacia? That's a bit Dutch mountaineering champion.
I looked at electric vans very recently, they still seem to be much worse than the cars, which is a shame.