Will Russia invade the Ukraine?

[Hoonercat]

Istr something about the Yanks being upset recently because someone had already started training without permission, I think it was us.

AFAIK Denmark is the only country that has started training them (or at least, the only country who have admitted it). The UK plans to train Ukraine pilots 'in the summer' but I've not seen any official announcement that it has started.

[Bigjawa]

Istr something about the Yanks being upset recently because someone had already started training without permission, I think it was us.

AFAIK Denmark is the only country that has started training them (or at least, the only country who have admitted it). The UK plans to train Ukraine pilots 'in the summer' but I've not seen any official announcement that it has started.

How does the UK train them in F-16s? The RAF never used them?

[Mussels]

Istr something about the Yanks being upset recently because someone had already started training without permission, I think it was us.

AFAIK Denmark is the only country that has started training them (or at least, the only country who have admitted it). The UK plans to train Ukraine pilots 'in the summer' but I've not seen any official announcement that it has started.

How does the UK train them in F-16s? The RAF never used them?

It might not have been the UK that the US complained about but Ukrainian media seems to think the UK is involved. This was a month ago.
https://eng.obozrevatel.com/section-war ... -2023.html

Ukrainian pilots will start the first phase of exercises on F-16 fighters in Britain: the media revealed details

[Bigjawa]

AFAIK Denmark is the only country that has started training them (or at least, the only country who have admitted it). The UK plans to train Ukraine pilots 'in the summer' but I've not seen any official announcement that it has started.

How does the UK train them in F-16s? The RAF never used them?

It might not have been the UK that the US complained about but Ukrainian media seems to think the UK is involved. This was a month ago.
https://eng.obozrevatel.com/section-war ... -2023.html

Ukrainian pilots will start the first phase of exercises on F-16 fighters in Britain: the media revealed details

So they're just using the bases? Unless the RAF are putting chaps into 16s?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Could be training them on non aircraft specific procedures and tactics?

[Bigjawa]

Could be training them on non aircraft specific procedures and tactics?

That's what I meant, I suppose the likes of HARMs have a common interface across all aircraft?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Or even just how the radio works

I expect there's an entire sort of "system architecture" logic to western aircraft that's different to the soviet era stuff Ukraine has. Bit like switching from Android to iPhone.

[Horse]

How does the UK train them in F-16s? The RAF never used them?

Good old British ingenuity

[Mr. Dazzle]

It's the last thing anyone would expect.

[Horse]

It's the last thing anyone would expect.

Nah, that would be training in Spain

[irie]

Istr something about the Yanks being upset recently because someone had already started training without permission, I think it was us.

Yes, it was the UK.

[MingtheMerciless]

Stinger missile stock replacement to take a few years, technicians pulled out of retirement to train the new staff and more troubling is some electronic parts are now longer made.
https://www.defenseone.com/business/202 ... on/388067/

[Mussels]

Stinger missile stock replacement to take a few years, technicians pulled out of retirement to train the new staff and more troubling is some electronic parts are now longer made.
https://www.defenseone.com/business/202 ... on/388067/

I've worked on similar tech from a similar age and I think that article is hamming it up a bit for extra cash or glory, or they want to make changes and skip the certification.

[MingtheMerciless]

Stinger missile stock replacement to take a few years, technicians pulled out of retirement to train the new staff and more troubling is some electronic parts are now longer made.
https://www.defenseone.com/business/202 ... on/388067/

I've worked on similar tech from a similar age and I think that article is hamming it up a bit for extra cash or glory, or they want to make changes and skip the certification.

We've had railway stuff go obsolete and its involved people trawling eBay for spares. We've also had components that were 50p in production go to £5 once they're out of production as companies specialise in buying up the worlds stock of obsolete components and setting their price. We've also had the only RF drive transistor that we could use as an alternative only produce 75% of the power required and that required a perfect tune on a perfect transmitter. Also some our old RF kit couldn't be replaced as the components contained beryllium, there was no alternative. Luckily for us we managed to get by on the spares we had left as the old radio system was replaced. Even on our modern equipment, component replacement issues due to obsolescence/recycling requirements along with with type certification is a real issue and has caused tremendous headaches and expenditure.

[KungFooBob]

There was an urban legend that NASA would scour ebay for 8086 CPU's to keep the Shuttle flying long after Intel stopped making them.

[mangocrazy]

When IBM discontinued production of their 3745 communications controllers (introduced in the mid '80s) in the early 2000s, one of the few sources of spares/features was eBay. This gave rise to the faintly ludicrous situation of Banks and other major blue chip companies buying bits off eBay to keep their flagship mainframe SNA networks running while they hastily converted to TCPIP.

[Count Steer]

There was an urban legend that NASA would scour ebay for 8086 CPU's to keep the Shuttle flying long after Intel stopped making them.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was true. My last company had a Space and Defence division (their only joke was 'It's not rocket science y'know. Oh, hang on, it is! ). They were actually the lowest/oldest tech part of the whole business - wouldn't put anything up there that hadn't been 'proven' for umpteen years.

[Mussels]

The Stinger came into service just after the 8086 chip so I doubt it includes anything that advanced. They could probably make most of the electronics needed in a garden shed.

[Cousin Jack]

Perhaps this will be the end of Western civilization?

Not in a nuclear fireball, not in a major sea level rise due to global warming, not in a people's uprising against capitalism. Just slowly strangled by obsolesence coupled with ultra green policies and ever more stringent certification requirements.

[irie]

After watching the latest videos of Putin in today's annual Russian Navy Day in St Petersburgh my wife remarked (and I agreed with her) that it does look likely that Putin has Parkinson's.