Will Russia invade the Ukraine?

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Will Russia invade the Ukraine

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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?

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Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:16 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:19 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 10:53 pm

Was that a flounce? We haven't had a good flounce for ages!
If it was, it was a very low-key and quickly-reversed flounce. Not a proper flounce at all...
Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.
Dennis Healey's First Law of Holes comes to mind here.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?

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mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:22 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:16 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:19 am
If it was, it was a very low-key and quickly-reversed flounce. Not a proper flounce at all...
Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.
Dennis Healey's First Law of Holes comes to mind here.
You should have told that to Hamas before it dug the ~300 miles of tunnels under the Gaza Strip. :lol:

Oh, and while on the subject of tunnels, one wonders how Hamas managed to dispose of the well over 500,000 cubic metres of dirt/debris resulting from the tunnelling without the active compliance of Gaza Strip residents. :)
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I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.
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Re: Will Russia invade the Ukraine?

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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:00 pm I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.
But very handy tunnels to retreat into when you attack that "immediate (and hostile) neighbour ... armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets", kill over a thousand of them and take hundreds of hostages, and that neighbour gets mighty pissed off and swears to kill you for doing that.

Keep digging Mango, you're doing fine. :thumbup:
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irie wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:01 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:00 pm I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.
But very handy tunnels to retreat into when you attack that "immediate (and hostile) neighbour ... armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets", kill over a thousand of them and take hundreds of hostages, and that neighbour gets mighty pissed off and swears to kill you for doing that.

Keep digging Mango, you're doing fine. :thumbup:
?? And your point is?
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So you flounced out of a thread because it transgressed your views on thread derailment...
irie wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:42 pm
irie wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:27 pm If you wish to have further discussion please start a separate thread. Thanks.
Fin.
And then you un-flounced and decided that discussing Israel/Hamas in a thread devoted to Russia/Ukraine was all perfectly fine...
irie wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:27 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:22 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:16 pm

Most flounces are transient phenomena. Blink and you will miss them. The interesting bits are the posts just before the actual flounce, when the flouncer finally sees the pit they have dug.
Dennis Healey's First Law of Holes comes to mind here.
You should have told that to Hamas before it dug the ~300 miles of tunnels under the Gaza Strip. :lol:

Oh, and while on the subject of tunnels, one wonders how Hamas managed to dispose of the well over 500,000 cubic metres of dirt/debris resulting from the tunnelling without the active compliance of Gaza Strip residents. :)
This is clearly unacceptable behaviour measured by your own standards...
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:19 pm So you flounced out of a thread because it transgressed your views on thread derailment...
I did not flounce, I said that this should be discussed in its own dedicated thread. You obviously disagreed and have continued here which is why I am doing the same.
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If it looks like a flounce, and sounds like a flounce, .................

We shall call it a flounce, you can call it whatever you choose.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:19 pm
This is clearly unacceptable behaviour measured by your own standards...
Unsurprisingly you missed this out:
irie wrote: But very handy tunnels to retreat into when you attack that "immediate (and hostile) neighbour ... armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets", kill over a thousand of them and take hundreds of hostages, and that neighbour gets mighty pissed off and swears to kill you for doing that.
If Hamas had not attacked Israel then Gaza would have been left untouched. However, Hamas attacked Isreal and Israel therefore retaliated.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:00 pm I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.
I’m unfamiliar with the laws of Gaza. Enlighten me.

I must say, murdering teens at a music festival and baking babies seems unlike a logical thing to do when your neighbour has an actual army, as opposed to a mob.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:30 pm If it looks like a flounce, and sounds like a flounce, .................
We shall call it a flounce, you can call it whatever you choose.
I was happy to leave it as it was without starting a new thread. But apparently that's not good enough for Mango who evidently did not want to start a new thread and wants to continue here. In a thread about Ukraine. :lol:
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I was discussing your flounce. You were discussing Israel/Hamas in a thread reserved for Russia Ukraine after berating someone else for doing the same. The horror!
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JackyJoll wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:38 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:00 pm I wasn't aware of there being any law against digging tunnels? Seems a logical thing to do when your immediate (and hostile) neighbour is armed to the teeth with bombs and rockets.
I’m unfamiliar with the laws of Gaza. Enlighten me.
Ask irie - he's tunnel-man. I was responding to his tunnel-terror.
JackyJoll wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:38 pm I must say, murdering teens at a music festival and baking babies seems unlike a logical thing to do when your neighbour has an actual army, as opposed to a mob.
It's akin to a 7 stone weakling assaulting Mike Tyson's mother. It's never going to end well. But being in what is effectively a prison camp can do strange things to people's reasoning.
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:56 pm It's akin to a 7 stone weakling assaulting Mike Tyson's mother. It's never going to end well. But being in what is effectively a prison camp can do strange things to people's reasoning.
That’s quite a good analogy about Old Mother Tyson.

There were many thousands of Gaza locals working in Israel, for comparatively good pay. Maybe that’s something they could have developed, instead of the current shitshow.

I don’t think Egypt let them in, to work there.
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