Re: What 4x4 For 4K
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:27 pm
Vans are aces, maybe I should just buy another rusty Mk6 Transit... might look a bit out of place in the car park at work tho'
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Vans are aces, maybe I should just buy another rusty Mk6 Transit... might look a bit out of place in the car park at work tho'
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:16 pm You don't need a 4x4 for that, just something that isn't a silly mini hot hatch. In fact a modern 4x4 with honking great 38" wheels that are a foot across probably ain't even as nice as a 5 series....
Can we include tradesman trucks in that? (As in crew cab pick ups à la the Mitsubishi Rapist).

Just bought a Ford Kuga with Ford (Getrag?) dual clutch auto system which is called "Powershift". It also has Ford's own AWD system which I think is the same as in the naughty Focus RS. It's simply a comfortable tool for carrying kitesurfing gear, mountain bikes, garden waste, pulling a caravan. Bought it with 4 years warranty to get me into the full electric era. If I want fun I ride two wheels, or even better no wheels.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:57 pmAren't they nearly all made by the same company (Gertrag) certainly Mitsubishi and VW/Audi use the same flappy paddle gearboxes - Mitsubishi Evos over 300bhp have manual boxes because the TCTS wasn't strong enough.Mussels wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:49 pmIIRC dual clutch autos had huge problems when they came out especially with more powerful engines, putting dry clutches in them was a bad mistake as people drove them like a slushbox and burnt the clutches, bigger engines just burnt the clutches whatever.Taipan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:14 pm I don't, my 50 pencing of corners is legendary!I was referring to people who do, be those bends on a track or some amazing B-roads somewhere? A dsg type box is better everywhere. Go into any supercar showroom and manual boxes will be very rare to find as it's old hat technology. I don't think MCLaren have even offered a manual as an option?
Wet clutches work much better but mean they get 0.001mpg less and sales guys don't like that so many stuck with dry clutches.
They may have improved recently but I don't trust them yet, manufacturers seem happy to roll out poorly designed tech if it looks good in marketing stuff.
Apart from that all autos are undesirable in corners, changing gear mid corner is going to throw the car off balance and if you are driving quickly you really don't want that to happen. Manual override helps that but there are still cars around with manual override that still gets overridden by the computer.
Not sure how much the Kuga 4WD has in common with the RS, but we had 3 Kugas on the trot when my missus worked for Ford, and she loved them. All were auto/4WD/ST-line spec (so stiffer suspension) which all the reviews say ruins the ride, but actually the combo of that with the 4WD made them handle really quite nicely I thought. Not quite a Fiesta or anything, but you could throw them around quite enjoyably.irie wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 amJust bought a Ford Kuga with Ford (Getrag?) dual clutch auto system which is called "Powershift". It also has Ford's own AWD system which I think is the same as in the naughty Focus RS. It's simply a comfortable tool for carrying kitesurfing gear, mountain bikes, garden waste, pulling a caravan. Bought it with 4 years warranty to get me into the full electric era. If I want fun I ride two wheels, or even better no wheels.
The old 911 has a picnic table on the back..Nidge wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:22 am My mates wife has an old Honda CRV with 230,000 miles on it, it’s epically reliable and feels like it’s got another 200k still left in it. He and I use it to collect bikes as it has a tow bar and, apart from being pretty slow, it’s hard to fault. Best of all the load compartment floor has fold out legs and doubles up as a picnic table.... well maybe that’s not the best, but still, it’s a car with a table!

I have the Titanium version with power lift back door etc. Wife has an A3 which works for her but it's too much of a bum dragger for me.Slenver wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:52 amNot sure how much the Kuga 4WD has in common with the RS, but we had 3 Kugas on the trot when my missus worked for Ford, and she loved them. All were auto/4WD/ST-line spec (so stiffer suspension) which all the reviews say ruins the ride, but actually the combo of that with the 4WD made them handle really quite nicely I thought. Not quite a Fiesta or anything, but you could throw them around quite enjoyably.irie wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:30 amJust bought a Ford Kuga with Ford (Getrag?) dual clutch auto system which is called "Powershift". It also has Ford's own AWD system which I think is the same as in the naughty Focus RS. It's simply a comfortable tool for carrying kitesurfing gear, mountain bikes, garden waste, pulling a caravan. Bought it with 4 years warranty to get me into the full electric era. If I want fun I ride two wheels, or even better no wheels.
Since leaving Ford we've replaced them with an L200 and Navara over the years, both of which are hateful, joyless things in my book. They're built to do a job of course (tow shit and lug shit) and they do that admirably, but they squeeze every ounce of dullness out of driving while they do it.
We're looking to get rid of the Navara soon (thank fuck) and out of everything in the world, my missus wants... another Kuga. Exactly the same as the ones she had before, not even the new model. I've tried to get her to at least look at alternatives but she's adamant.
The 3rd generation did away with the picnic table and hid the spare wheel under the boot instead. And yes, it's slower than it looks but I won't be telling anyone thatNidge wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:22 am My mates wife has an old Honda CRV with 230,000 miles on it, it’s epically reliable and feels like it’s got another 200k still left in it. He and I use it to collect bikes as it has a tow bar and, apart from being pretty slow, it’s hard to fault. Best of all the load compartment floor has fold out legs and doubles up as a picnic table.... well maybe that’s not the best, but still, it’s a car with a table!
I thought you had a Kuga?Taipan wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:58 pm We could do with a vehicle that can actually carry something and be a bit more comfortable for ferrying around "The Olds". So are these CRVs AWD? Is this old one worth a punt?
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Long gone! I really liked it but it had that dead throttle thing they suffer from and it got on my nerves one time too many!KungFooBob wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:00 pmI thought you had a Kuga?Taipan wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:58 pm We could do with a vehicle that can actually carry something and be a bit more comfortable for ferrying around "The Olds". So are these CRVs AWD? Is this old one worth a punt?
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Yes they are and there are lots about. I wanted an EX for the leather seats and extras. The 3rd gen from 2007 is, IMO, a better shape and bigger than it's predecessor.Taipan wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:58 pm We could do with a vehicle that can actually carry something and be a bit more comfortable for ferrying around "The Olds". So are these CRVs AWD? Is this old one worth a punt?
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