XSR900GP

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The big difference between the MT-09 and the XSR models is that the XSR (all variants) have a longer swingarm than the MT-09, making it less wheelie-prone and more stable. To me that's a big selling point for the XSR models.

Sounds like a minus point to me

[Yorick]

The big difference between the MT-09 and the XSR models is that the XSR (all variants) have a longer swingarm than the MT-09, making it less wheelie-prone and more stable. To me that's a big selling point for the XSR models.

Sounds like a minus point to me

200 gee gees negates that problem

[mangocrazy]

The big difference between the MT-09 and the XSR models is that the XSR (all variants) have a longer swingarm than the MT-09, making it less wheelie-prone and more stable. To me that's a big selling point for the XSR models.

Sounds like a minus point to me

I can understand that, but then I did fit a 2 inch longer than standard swingarm to my LC for just the same reasons.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I can understand that, but then I did fit a 2 inch longer than standard swingarm to my LC for just the same reasons.

Doesn't it make it a bit "tippy" into corners?

[mangocrazy]

I can understand that, but then I did fit a 2 inch longer than standard swingarm to my LC for just the same reasons.

Doesn't it make it a bit "tippy" into corners?

This was back in the 1980s, but from memory it made a genuine improvement, probably because the swingarm was made from box section steel and was much stiffer than the standard one. With a Spax shock fitted it steered and handled pretty well. But in the late 80s I put it all back to standard and sold all the 'upgrade' bits.

Then stuck it in the back of the garage and forgot about it for 25 years...

[Dodgy69]

The base mt does come standard with everything except fancy suspension, heated grips and cruise.

QS are ace imo, On the road you can make use of ups but downs not so much, mainly very hard braking, on track yes, yes, yes.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The base mt does come standard with everything except fancy suspension, heated grips and cruise.

QS are ace imo, On the road you can make use of ups but downs not so much, mainly very hard braking, on track yes, yes, yes.

I must ride differently to you because I find mine a bit pointless on up changes but really good for down changes, on the brakes into a corner I don't have to pull the clutch in or blip the throttle as I change down.

Of course this could all prove to be a disaster in two years time when the gearbox shits itself because of my poor down changes.

[weeksy]

Of course this could all prove to be a disaster in two years time when the gearbox shits itself because of my poor down changes.

that's the whole point of the QS, you can't have bad changes, you push the lever, it does the rest.. that's the whole thing.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Of course this could all prove to be a disaster in two years time when the gearbox shits itself because of my poor down changes.

that's the whole point of the QS, you can't have bad changes, you push the lever, it does the rest.. that's the whole thing.

You've not seen me use it, trying to stop myself from blipping the throttle on down changes and closing the throttle on up changes isn't going well, I'm seriously tempted to disconnect it, I'm trying to learn a different way of changing gear after 40 years of riding.

[v8-powered]

I never liked a QS on the road but loved it on the track. I certainly wouldn't get concerned about my road bike not having one, in fact I'd rather a bike that didn't....

[mangocrazy]

I never liked a QS on the road but loved it on the track. I certainly wouldn't get concerned about my road bike not having one, in fact I'd rather a bike that didn't....

Agree. I don't have a bike with a QS, but if I ever did buy one it would have to be able to be disabled (IYSWIM)

[Dodgy69]

Where I find the blipper best is going down the box quick, say 5 to 2/1st. On the road I have no need.

They ain't necessary but make riding on track easier and more fun.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Where I find the blipper best is going down the box quick, say 5 to 2/1st. On the road I have no need.

They ain't necessary but make riding on track easier and more fun.

I find it good on the road for going down 3 gears as you come into a round about, I tend to short shift up to 6th on a dual carriageway and then come down 3 gears when I get to a round about, the quick shifter is really good for this.

[Taipan]

My MT09 had a quickshifter and it worked well, but I rarely used it. After 40 years of not upshifting with a WOT, it just felt wrong and I couldn't get used to it! DCT FTW!

[weeksy]

You're a bit strange you lot.... Whilst the QS/Blipper is different, that doesn't mean it's not brilliant. It took minutes to learn and get out of the non-blipping mode.. i love both, not because i want valuable fractions of a second, but because they're cool.

Y'all realise that with pretty much every modern bike having a slipper clutch, you don't need to blip anyway ?

[KungFooBob]

It's when you have more than one bike and some do/don't have QS and slippers

[Dodgy69]

Embrace the technology.

[weeksy]

You didn't grow up not using one though, for some of us we'd need CBT to get out of the habit

Well no, but my first 15 years of biking they didn't have them. Admittedly that's less than you guys, but FFS it's not a fortnight.

[weeksy]

I have bikes with different gear selections, and I've had bikes with the gear lever and even the kickstart on different sides.
My Jap bikes have been one down five up, my race bikes were one up and five down and my old British bike is one up three down.

But somehow you manage to adapt

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

You're a bit strange you lot....

You've only just come to that conclusion?