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weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:07 pm

Rockburner wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:02 pm

Couchy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 11:59 am Fitted the 17's today, front end was nearly 2" lower so gained 1" adjusting the ride height on the shock. Rear was also 1" closer so looks like geometry is similar. Bike sitting a little lower so side stand needs modding again. Also the front mudguard needs changing but I'll ride it first. Weighed the wheels too and ready to use the front is 2kg lighter and the rear 1.5kg so a 3.5kg weight saving.....irrelevant really but since buying it I've unbolted over 12kg of 'extras' and changed the exhaust and cat so it's over 21kg lighter and around 12kg lighter than standard

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That mudguard does look odd.

Hopefully it should still ride ok, be interesting to know what the difference is. What size is the OE rear?

Did you get a 5" or 5.5" width rear? IIRC the R1150R has a 5" rear (where the Rockster/K1200RS/R1100S have the 5.5") and takes 170 section tyres, rather than 180. Not sure if that limits your tyre choice or not.

when you say 'odd' you mean hideous ? enormous ? comical ? or a combination of all ?

It's a combination of all 3

Couchy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:11 pm

weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:07 pm

Rockburner wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:02 pm

That mudguard does look odd.

Hopefully it should still ride ok, be interesting to know what the difference is. What size is the OE rear?

Did you get a 5" or 5.5" width rear? IIRC the R1150R has a 5" rear (where the Rockster/K1200RS/R1100S have the 5.5") and takes 170 section tyres, rather than 180. Not sure if that limits your tyre choice or not.

when you say 'odd' you mean hideous ? enormous ? comical ? or a combination of all ?

It's a combination of all 3

Looking really good and the overall weight trimming is good news. Presumably, the mudguards from other road based models will bolt straight on and be cheap 2ng hand?

I always liked the look of that stripped down one BMW released for a while, was it the HP or something? Mind you, I always preferred the lighter, simplicity of my 1100GS to the 1150...

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 pm

Couchy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:11 pm

weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:07 pm

when you say 'odd' you mean hideous ? enormous ? comical ? or a combination of all ?

It's a combination of all 3

Looking really good and the overall weight trimming is good news. Presumably, the mudguards from other road based models will bolt straight on and be cheap 2ng hand?

not necessarily - while the fork legs weren't unique to each model, the GS ones are (obviously) somewhat more different than the rest so it would be a case of having a good look at how the other are attached. I'm not sure if they all have the central screw for example (on the R1100S/Rockster front end there's a single screw holding the mudguard to the 'fork-bridge', as well as 2 screws on each fork leg).

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 pm
I always liked the look of that stripped down one BMW released for a while, was it the HP or something? Mind you, I always preferred the lighter, simplicity of my 1100GS to the 1150...

The HP2 ? IIRC that was based off the early R1200GS.

Rockburner wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:56 pm

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 pm

Couchy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:11 pm

It's a combination of all 3

Looking really good and the overall weight trimming is good news. Presumably, the mudguards from other road based models will bolt straight on and be cheap 2ng hand?

not necessarily - while the fork legs weren't unique to each model, the GS ones are (obviously) somewhat more different than the rest so it would be a case of having a good look at how the other are attached. I'm not sure if they all have the central screw for example (on the R1100S/Rockster front end there's a single screw holding the mudguard to the 'fork-bridge', as well as 2 screws on each fork leg).

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 pm
I always liked the look of that stripped down one BMW released for a while, was it the HP or something? Mind you, I always preferred the lighter, simplicity of my 1100GS to the 1150...

The HP2 ? IIRC that was based off the early R1200GS.

They did an 1200 HP2 Enduro (along with an HP2 Sport and an HP2 Megamoto).

Rockburner wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:56 pm

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 pm

Couchy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:11 pm

It's a combination of all 3

Looking really good and the overall weight trimming is good news. Presumably, the mudguards from other road based models will bolt straight on and be cheap 2ng hand?

not necessarily - while the fork legs weren't unique to each model, the GS ones are (obviously) somewhat more different than the rest so it would be a case of having a good look at how the other are attached. I'm not sure if they all have the central screw for example (on the R1100S/Rockster front end there's a single screw holding the mudguard to the 'fork-bridge', as well as 2 screws on each fork leg).

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 pm
I always liked the look of that stripped down one BMW released for a while, was it the HP or something? Mind you, I always preferred the lighter, simplicity of my 1100GS to the 1150...

The HP2 ? IIRC that was based off the early R1200GS.

Aye, that's the one. I strongly fancied the first 1200s as they looked a bit lighter etc, but then came the stories of gearbox troubles. Then I saw the HP2 and thought yes, but they were way out of budget.

Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:37 pm
Aye, that's the one. I strongly fancied the first 1200s as they looked a bit lighter etc, but then came the stories of gearbox troubles. Then I saw the HP2 and thought yes, but they were safely out of budget.

Finally got a ride in on the 17’s. Handles great and still very stable. Lots more confidence/feeling at bigger lean angles. They’ll be staying on so need to sort out the mudguard now. I’ll get a Cadwell booked as it’ll be at least as much fun as the Enfield was

Would a Rockster or R850/1100R mudguard fit?

Taipan wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:18 pm Would a Rockster or R850/1100R mudguard fit?

Different mount points on the fork leg , but might be bodged to fit.

Rockburner wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:09 pm

Taipan wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:18 pm Would a Rockster or R850/1100R mudguard fit?

Different mount points on the fork leg , but might be bodged to fit.

It can't look any worse

What's wrong with the mudguard? Looks like it'll do the job it's supposed to and the clearance looks good for if it gets muddy.

weeksy wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:42 pm

Rockburner wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:09 pm

Taipan wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:18 pm Would a Rockster or R850/1100R mudguard fit?

Different mount points on the fork leg , but might be bodged to fit.

It can't look any worse

It looks like a fat bloke in skinny jeans.

lostboy wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:25 am

weeksy wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:42 pm

Rockburner wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:09 pm

Different mount points on the fork leg , but might be bodged to fit.

It can't look any worse

It looks like a fat bloke in skinny jeans.

Leave me out of this!

lostboy wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:25 am

weeksy wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:42 pm

Rockburner wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:09 pm

Different mount points on the fork leg , but might be bodged to fit.

It can't look any worse

It looks like a fat bloke in skinny jeans.

Bro came round today on his 1200 tenere. Another one I wanted to try back to back with the GS. Soon as I pulled away the fuelling is the first thing I notice isn't as good as the GS. Just like the 1250GS, a bit unfair as mine is mapped and they are standard but it's very noticeable. The 1200 is a bit quicker but the handling isn't anywhere near the GS. It's slow to turn and very harsh, soft with poor damping. Again mine is aftermarket but still.
The 1200 was ok as a big comfy bike but not a bike you'd want to throw around or try and ride hard on whereas the GS excels at that. I'd happily take the GS on track but the 1200 tenere not at all.
So that's the second bike I've tried that I thought may be a GS replacement and the second one to be dismissed

Will you remove several kg of mainstand before going on-track?

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:08 pm Will you remove several kg of mainstand before going on-track?

Nah I'll just ride it

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:08 pm Will you remove several kg of mainstand before going on-track?

He's already removed so much weight it's almost going to blow away!

Rockburner wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:17 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:08 pm Will you remove several kg of mainstand before going on-track?

He's already removed so much weight it's almost going to blow away!

I reckon on a Trackday with 1/3 tank fuel it’s not gonna be far off 210-215kg ready to ride. Can’t argue with that as it’s right in the ball park with modern sports bikes and light for an adv bike