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I use the BBC a lot, too.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:00 am I use the BBC website a lot to keep up with news and Sport.
The problem with BBC news is it's incredibly biased. The sport website used to be handy for football fixtures, but that changed last year when they started putting pictures next to teams making it less fluid to read.
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Still quite a lot of people watching BBC output...and the quitters aren't exactly swamping GB 'News'. (You'll have to scroll a lot to find the figures for that one). :lol:

https://www.barb.co.uk/monthly-viewing/

(I watch more Beeb than anything else, listen to Beeb Radio and use their news/sport website so I guess I get what I pay for :thumbup: ).
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wheelnut wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:58 am
demographic wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:04 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:51 pm I don't even need an NHS, if I hadn't been forced to contribute I could buy my medical care bad stuff and/or insure against . And it would be better.,
If you think that the NHS is bad, try what the US has and see just how expensive basic health insurance can be.
You might be tempted to go Luigi on a healthcare CEO.
My son is married to an American girl and I was talking to her parents about it. They get basic coverage through work but top up the insurance to the tune of $25k pa. Even then each claim brings massive stress as claims are denied and appealed. A simple blood test can be $2k and waiting times can be a lot longer than we’d imagine.

I’m sure there’s better models than the NHS but they’re not in the US.
You're right. There are about 200 countries in the world, many of them with better health care systems than the US system or The Envy Of The World™ but whenever anybody criticises The Envy Of The World™ there's always somebody to tell you how bad the US system is, as if that's the only alternative. :roll:
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Saga Lout wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:45 am There are about 200 countries in the world, many of them with better health care systems than the US system or The Envy Of The World™ but whenever anybody criticises The Envy Of The World™ there's always somebody to tell you how bad the US system is, as if that's the only alternative. :roll:
That would be because the loudest voices (i.e. the ones who stand to gain the most financially) are pushing us towards an insurance-based model similar to the US. You know - individuals like 'Man of the People' Nigel Farage.
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The French system seems to work well. Pay for your test, then claim it back.
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demographic wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:59 am
Taipan wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:43 am 500,000 people have cancelled their license fees! :crazy: No surprises here really. Shame when a once great institution is being brought down by wokeism, but the worm is turning...

https://www.google.com/search?q=500000+ ... e&ie=UTF-8
Any evidence that was the reason that so many people cancelled their licence fee?
Percentages?
Or is it like much the rest of the stuff you post nowadays? All elderly opinion and very little evidence?
I associate the BBC with over 60s and shit game shows, not wokeism :obscene-birdiedoublered:
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:26 pm The French system seems to work well. Pay for your test, then claim it back.
France do better than the UK, but not by much. If we’re looking for systems to emulate we’re probably better looking east to Asia.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:26 pm The French system seems to work well. Pay for your test, then claim it back.
@Noggin to confirm.

I think it's partially state-funded, partially insurance. Typically 60:40 split.

From my mate's experience, if it's something not covered by insurance, and you don't have sufficient cash to pay the 40%, you don't get the 60%.
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demographic wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:04 am.
Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:51 pm I don't even need an NHS, if I hadn't been forced to contribute I could buy my medical care bad stuff and/or insure against . And it would be better.,
If you think that the NHS is bad, try what the US has and see just how expensive basic health insurance can be.
You might be tempted to go Luigi on a healthcare CEO.
I don't really want to kill the NHS but I do want a radical reappraisal of how it works. Just because we have always done that doesn't make it good practice. Lots of stuff needs re-thinking, not only how can we do this better, but should we actually be doing some stuff.

Why do we spend a fortune on the morbidly obese who will not help themselves? Diet or pay.
Why do we spend a fortune on smokers who will not give up? Quit or pay.
Why do we do stuff like breast augmentation on the NHS? Want bigger tits, go private.
Why do are air ambulances and hospices always run by charities?
and the No 1
Why do we not charge a modest fee to see a GP or to visit A&E? It would not raise much cash, but it would deter a huge number of time-wasters.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:04 pm
demographic wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:04 am.
Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:51 pm I don't even need an NHS, if I hadn't been forced to contribute I could buy my medical care bad stuff and/or insure against . And it would be better.,
If you think that the NHS is bad, try what the US has and see just how expensive basic health insurance can be.
You might be tempted to go Luigi on a healthcare CEO.
I don't really want to kill the NHS but I do want a radical reappraisal of how it works. Just because we have always done that doesn't make it good practice. Lots of stuff needs re-thinking, not only how can we do this better, but should we actually be doing some stuff.

Why do we spend a fortune on the morbidly obese who will not help themselves? Diet or pay.
Why do we spend a fortune on smokers who will not give up? Quit or pay.
Why do we do stuff like breast augmentation on the NHS? Want bigger tits, go private.
Why do are air ambulances and hospices always run by charities?
and the No 1
Why do we not charge a modest fee to see a GP or to visit A&E? It would not raise much cash, but it would deter a huge number of time-wasters.
Smokers are already denied treatment.
The obese are already denied treatment.

Why pay to treat those that cause themselves injury on smelly dangerous motorbikes, why pay to treat those that have a car accident when safer public transport was available etc etc etc etc ad infinitum
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Horse wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:46 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:26 pm The French system seems to work well. Pay for your test, then claim it back.
@Noggin to confirm.

I think it's partially state-funded, partially insurance. Typically 60:40 split.

From my mate's experience, if it's something not covered by insurance, and you don't have sufficient cash to pay the 40%, you don't get the 60%.
That's fair enough, I suppose. 60% of a heart transplant isn't going to be much use to you: "Well, we can take out the old one but you'll have to put the new one in yourself!" :wtf:
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:04 pm
Why do are air ambulances and hospices always run by charities?
and the No 1
Why do we not charge a modest fee to see a GP or to visit A&E? It would not raise much cash, but it would deter a huge number of time-wasters.
I agree with most of what you said & noted when the Covid pandemic was at it's height the regular 'Creaky Gates' stopped making apointments at the Doctors for a few months :D
A couple of years back I was listening to a interview with someone regarding Air Ambulance funding & they said that they prefer to remain a charity as this gives them more autonomy with regards to the equipment they use.