XSR900GP

[Yorick]

I've toured France many times 2 up on GSXR1000s. And rode it to Portimao in Autumn.
My touring pals all have V4 Panigales now.

Not all sports bikes are crap on the road.

You can do it, and I used to, but I’ve lost the willingness to go through any type of hardship or discomfort as a part of the journey. Especially if there is a better thing to do it on.

And I’ve gone off race reps.

I'd choose this one over any touring bike to do a long journey. No hardship or discomfort.

[Dodgy69]

I'd like a half comfy sport's bike with QS and blip. Not been invented yet.

Too comfy. Nice though, but I've still got the gs.

[KungFooBob]

I'd like a half comfy sport's bike with QS and blip. Not been invented yet.

Too comfy. Nice though, but I've still got the gs.

Have you sat on one?

I'd say half comfy at best. It's half the size of a GS.

[Dodgy69]

Was looking at gsxr750 and 1000s last night. Reasonable comfy for a SB, but no clutchless. Think the r does but rocking horse shit and pricey.

[mangocrazy]

Too comfy. Nice though, but I've still got the gs.

Have you sat on one?

I'd say half comfy at best. It's half the size of a GS.

There's one in at SMC Sheffield at the mo, the RC model listed at £17k with factory luggage, which is too high if you ask me. Had a sit on it and it felt pretty good, but heavier than I expected from the spec sheet. Having checked again, it's listed as 199kg dry weight, so probably closer to 230kg fully fueled and ready to go.

[Supermofo]

Was looking at gsxr750 and 1000s last night. Reasonable comfy for a SB, but no clutchless. Think the r does but rocking horse shit and pricey.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305019634489



Pretty comfy, just buy an aftermarket shifter

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The quick shifter on my Honda is a waste of space, it only really works well changing up if your wide flat out accelerating, but the effect of switching off 140bhp and switching it back on again has a fairly noticeable effect on the bikes handling, I'm better off doing a normal clutchless up shift, changing down it's more use, personally I think heated grips are a better accessory.

[weeksy]

The quick shifter on my Honda is a waste of space, it only really works well changing up if your wide flat out accelerating, but the effect of switching off 140bhp and switching it back on again has a fairly noticeable effect on the bikes handling, I'm better off doing a normal clutchless up shift, changing down it's more use, personally I think heated grips are a better accessory.

Weird, the one I rode it was silky smooth.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

The quick shifter on my Honda is a waste of space, it only really works well changing up if your wide flat out accelerating, but the effect of switching off 140bhp and switching it back on again has a fairly noticeable effect on the bikes handling, I'm better off doing a normal clutchless up shift, changing down it's more use, personally I think heated grips are a better accessory.

Weird, the one I rode it was silky smooth.

Maybe mine needs adjusting, or I'm just shit at using it.

[KungFooBob]

I've been doing clutchless upshifts for so long, I had to train my self not to close the throttle slightly on my GS or it just made the whole thing jerky.

Maybe it's your muscle memory doing an ever so slight adjustment without you realising?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I think it probably is, I've been doing clutches up shifts since around 1989. I'm probably closing the throttle and confusing the quick shifter, it works lovely from a shifting point of view if I'm flat out and hold the throttle against the stop, but as I said, 140bhp - 0bhp - 140bhp has a noticeable effect on the bike.

It's not a big problem for me as I just change up like I have done for the last 30 off years, close throttle, change up, open throttle, changing down the shifter is good, especially if I'm on the brakes.

And the whole bike is superb, so it's just nit picking.

[Skub]

just buy an aftermarket shifter

Lots of folk with Z1000s have went the aftermarket route and put the shits up the gearbag. 4th gear stripping out is a common one. I'd be a bit twitchy about a quickshifter unless it came stock.

[wull]

just buy an aftermarket shifter

Lots of folk with Z1000s have went the aftermarket route and put the shits up the gearbag. 4th gear stripping out is a common one. I'd be a bit twitchy about a quickshifter unless it came stock.

There are plenty aftermarket QS’s that are much better than the standard set up on bikes these days, the majority of bikes that come equipped with them are good enough but if you want the best then you have to go aftermarket.

[Skub]

There are plenty aftermarket QS’s that are much better than the standard set up on bikes these days, the majority of bikes that come equipped with them are good enough but if you want the best then you have to go aftermarket.

I suppose it may come down to how well the owners set them up to work properly and not cause damage?

[weeksy]

just buy an aftermarket shifter

Lots of folk with Z1000s have went the aftermarket route and put the shits up the gearbag. 4th gear stripping out is a common one. I'd be a bit twitchy about a quickshifter unless it came stock.

There are plenty aftermarket QS’s that are much better than the standard set up on bikes these days, the majority of bikes that come equipped with them are good enough but if you want the best then you have to go aftermarket.

Agree. The QS on our zx6 is the sweetest in any bike ever used. It was setup on Dyno on installation though I admit

[mangocrazy]

Just been talking (briefly) to a Yamaha bloke about the XSR900GP, he said it's built on the MT platform and it has the electronics package from the R1 and various other premium bits from other bikes, can't remember if he said it has a QS, but apparently the electrics and bits are top notch, and it adds up to a bike that is quite a way above a standard XSR.

I was moaning that it's an XSR with fancy paint and he said it wasn't, it's a bit more Gucci than I was giving it credit for.

I think that the Yamaha chap was telling porkies. Everything I've read indicates that the 'base' XSR has the full gamut of electronic toys, in the way that the latest MT-09 does. This is a cut and paste from the XSR 900 web page:

XSR_900_spec.JPG (33.72 KiB) Viewed 521 times

And here is Yamaha's web page for the XSR 900.

https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/motor ... r900-2024/

It's instructive to compare the specs with the GP version, here:

https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/motor ... 0-gp-2024/

I don't see any difference between the base model and the GP other than the posh frock. The base model has the quickshifter, 6 axis IMU, slipper clutch, cruise control, blah blah blah.

[Yorick]

Just been talking (briefly) to a Yamaha bloke about the XSR900GP, he said it's built on the MT platform and it has the electronics package from the R1 and various other premium bits from other bikes, can't remember if he said it has a QS, but apparently the electrics and bits are top notch, and it adds up to a bike that is quite a way above a standard XSR.

I was moaning that it's an XSR with fancy paint and he said it wasn't, it's a bit more Gucci than I was giving it credit for.

I wouldn't pay a penny extra just for fancy electronics.
Only good money for me is spent on suspension and brakes.

[Yorick]

I wouldn't pay a penny extra just for fancy electronics.

I have no idea if they're worth it, the newest bike in my garage is from 1981

I've ridden/owned newer bikes but nothing on them made any difference to me, I've test ridden some of the latest Ducatis and neither did any of that, so I'm probably the same as you.

If I did trackdays and regularly pushed limits then that might change but I ride steady these days so I don't need anything fancy to make me faster and I can't see how any of the current electronics packages would make me enjoy the bike more. That's probably why I don't have anything made in the last forty-odd years in my garage.

On track, decent suspension is far more valuable than a quick shifter and auto blipper.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

As I've already said, I'm not very impressed with the quick shifter and auto blipper on mine, I certainly wouldn't pay extra for them, traction control is okay, but I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there, I do like the adjustable throttle response, you can make the bike fairly tame (for a 140 bhp bike) or mental depending on what mood you're in.

[mangocrazy]

I don't see any difference between the base model and the GP other than the posh frock. The base model has the quickshifter, 6 axis IMU, slipper clutch, cruise control, blah blah blah.

To be fair to him it might be my mistake, I went in with "This bike is too expensive because it's only a fairly unsophisticated bike with fancy paint" - and he then proceeded to tell me about the bits on it that make it a good bike and why I wasn't being fair to it. I assumed that he was telling me about all the bits that made it different to the base model. What I perhaps should have asked is exactly how is it different to the base model.

But if we're still at "It's a standard bike with fancy paint" then I guess it's still too expensive at sixteen grand OTR with just a few catalogue options.

I think that all the latest CP3 derivatives have the same suspension, brakes and electronics package, with the exception of the MT-09 SP which has an Ohlins shock with remote preload adjuster and BPF Kayaba forks. They all have the R1-derived 6 axis IMU etc. etc. The big difference between the MT-09 and the XSR models is that the XSR (all variants) have a longer swingarm than the MT-09, making it less wheelie-prone and more stable. To me that's a big selling point for the XSR models.

But yes, probably the right question would have been 'what are the differences between the GP and the base XSR model'?