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Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:11 pm
by Rockburner
ChrisW wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:10 pm
You seem to be having quite the streak with high-maintenance cars - have you ever considered buying a P38 Range Rover or perhaps a Land Rover, maybe a Fiat Coupe or RX7?
For a quieter life you mean?
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:13 pm
by Count Steer
ChrisW wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:10 pm
You seem to be having quite the streak with high-maintenance cars - have you ever considered buying a P38 Range Rover or perhaps a Land Rover, maybe a Fiat Coupe or RX7?
Saving up for a Triumph Stag maybe? ) Put that coolant experience to good use.

Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:15 pm
by KungFooBob
Isuzu Piazza, maybe a Fiat X1/9?
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:21 pm
by mangocrazy
ChrisW wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:10 pm
You seem to be having quite the streak with high-maintenance cars - have you ever considered buying a P38 Range Rover or perhaps a Land Rover, maybe a Fiat Coupe or RX7?
I'm seriously thinking that my next 4 wheeler will be a Volvo.
In beige.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:22 pm
by KungFooBob
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:21 pmIn beige.
Jewish Racing Gold!
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:24 pm
by ChrisW
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:22 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:21 pmIn beige.
Jewish Racing Gold!
Hampstead Garden Subaru!
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:46 pm
by mangocrazy
Perhaps a nice V70 estate...
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:50 pm
by Count Steer
LOL. When I bought my V70 2.5T (estate, dark grey, obvs) the missus was most disappointed I didn't go for the V70 T5 that was on the showroom floor, resplendent in 'Saffron' (aka JRG).

Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:51 pm
by KungFooBob
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:46 pm
Perhaps a nice V70 estate...
850 T5 if you want to be proper cool.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:55 pm
by mangocrazy
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:51 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:46 pm
Perhaps a nice V70 estate...
850 T5 if you want to be proper cool.
I'm done with 'classics'...
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:58 pm
by KungFooBob
I really like my 2019 S90 D4, but it's way too flippin' complicated, far too much technology, I know when something goes wrong it's going to cost me proper money!
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:03 pm
by mangocrazy
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:58 pm
I really like my 2019 S90 D4, but it's way too flippin' complicated, far too much technology, I know when something goes wrong it's going to cost me proper money!
That's my concern with pretty much any modern car. Perhaps an over-engineered but still fairly tech-free late 80s diesel Merc?
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:07 pm
by KungFooBob
If you want a Derv then maybe a direct injection jobbie with a Bosch VP rotary pump, should run forever, potentially on cooking fat.
If you want a bit more refinement, then a VAG PD engine. The last attempt by the Hun to build a refined diesel before having to stump up licensing money to the Fronch for Common Rail tech.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:13 pm
by mangocrazy
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:07 pm
If you want a Derv then maybe a direct injection jobbie with a Bosch VP rotary pump, should run forever, potentially on cooking fat.
What makes/models ran that set up?
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:07 pm
If you want a bit more refinement, then a VAG PD engine. The last attempt by the Hun to build a refined diesel before having to stump up licensing money to the Fronch for Common Rail tech.
That would be the 1.9 TD, I guess? They do seem to run forever and are reasonably quick even by today's standards. My T4 currently has 260k on the clock, so I guess it doesn't owe me much, if anything.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:18 pm
by KungFooBob
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:13 pm
What makes/models ran that set up?
Rover L series, probably a bit long in the tooth these days, but they'll out last the body.
Ford TDDI (not the TDCI) as found is Mk6 Transits and early Mk3 Mundanos.
The VE VAG engines (the one before the PD).
The pre Storm engine TDI Landrovers.
There's more, but I've had a drink.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:24 pm
by mangocrazy
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:18 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:13 pm
What makes/models ran that set up?
Rover L series, probably a bit long in the tooth these days, but they'll out last the body.
Ford TDDI (not the TDCI) as found is Mk6 Transits and early Mk3 Mundanos.
The VE VAG engines (the one before the PD).
The pre Storm engine TDI Landrovers.
There's more, but I've had a drink.
Yeah, pretty old tech, but solid. I had a 57 plate Focus with the 1.8 TDCi engine and that motor was built like a tank. I was a bit pissed off when someone drove into the side of it and wrote it off. The 2.0 HDi in my wife's Berlingo (55 plate) is another old but pretty much bombproof motor.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:28 pm
by KungFooBob
I had an 04 MG ZS with the 101TD (L-Series) engine. I fitted the injectors from a Rover 220SD and got an instant 15BHP boost, then I wound up the waste gate on the turbo. It was surprisingly sprightly and cost bugger all to run.
Shame the body was made out of old kitkat wrappers.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:35 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:03 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:58 pm
I really like my 2019 S90 D4, but it's way too flippin' complicated, far too much technology, I know when something goes wrong it's going to cost me proper money!
That's my concern with pretty much any modern car. Perhaps an over-engineered but still fairly tech-free late 80s diesel Merc?
Modern Toyotas and Lexus are pretty safe IMO. Well, I don't know about the fully electric ones but the hybrids and petrol ones seem pretty good.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:42 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:09 am
mangocrazy wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:56 am
I'm trying to understand the logic in that, but failing...
On an aircraft there are probably hundreds if not thousands of wires. You'd run out of colours!
"Connect the teal wire to the teal port, not the dark turqiose one!"
Not too much of an issue, we used to have 4800 pair cables at BT, that's 9600 wires in a cable.
Re: The continuing saga of my Lancia Beta Spider
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:50 pm
by mangocrazy
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:42 pm
Not too much of an issue, we used to have 4800 pair cables at BT, that's 9600 wires in a cable.
How did that translate to fibre?