What's new for 2024?

[Bustaspoke]

Now that I can approve of.

I've always fancied a street scrambler, the Trumpet ones are a bit too much money, I also looked at 70's Honda CL's imported from California, but apparently they're not very reliable and they're pretty uninspiring to ride.

If Enfield get it right I imagine it will be a good seller.

I don't know why RE haven't made a 650 before now,it must be easy to convert a Interceptor? I looked at TEC bike parts for some ideas as I was thinking of doing this before I bought my SV650.

[The Spin Doctor]

the wheelbase would make the Y2K turbine bike blush!

I've scaled some images of the Ninja 400 and the Ninja 7 (the front tyre, front axle and end of the can line up pretty well) and you're right about the wheelbase.

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My very rough measurements make the Ninja 7 about 5 inches longer than the 400 - approx 1537 mm.

Will it make a lot of difference? The Ninja 400 wheelbase is 1370 mm / 53.9 in, the Ninja 650 is 1409.7 mm / 55.5 in. The Z9 is 57.3 in / 1455 mm.

I'm pretty sure you won't be pulling any wheelies on it!

[Skub]

My very rough measurements make the Ninja 7 about 5 inches longer than the 400 - approx 1537 mm.

Will it make a lot of difference? The Ninja 400 wheelbase is 1370 mm / 53.9 in, the Ninja 650 is 1409.7 mm / 55.5 in. The Z9 is 57.3 in / 1455 mm.

I'm pretty sure you won't be pulling any wheelies on it!

Depends how they balance it out with other geometry such as headstock angle etc. In general and on it's own a 5" longer swinger will be a discernible difference for sure. (matron)

[mboy]

I've scaled some images of the Ninja 400 and the Ninja 7 (the front tyre, front axle and end of the can line up pretty well) and you're right about the wheelbase.

I wasn't being melodramatic!

Kawasaki's styling is questionable at times, as though they haven't been finished until every panel has been attacked with an axe... But that's subjective...

But if those are 17" rims, then it's gonna be one hell of a long wheelbase for the type of bike it is! Adventure Bikes have long suspension travel contributing to their wheelbases, but this just looks like the need to package so much into the chassis has resulted in the rider needing Orangutan like proportions to be able to ride it comfortably...

[The Spin Doctor]

I wasn't being melodramatic!

Kawasaki's styling is questionable at times, as though they haven't been finished until every panel has been attacked with an axe... But that's subjective...

But if those are 17" rims, then it's gonna be one hell of a long wheelbase for the type of bike it is! Adventure Bikes have long suspension travel contributing to their wheelbases, but this just looks like the need to package so much into the chassis has resulted in the rider needing Orangutan like proportions to be able to ride it comfortably...

Indeed you weren't.

If they'd used a side-mounted shock as on the 650 - or even twin shocks god forbid - they would have had more room behind the engine and maybe a rather shorter wheelbase.

[Nordboy]

I really fancied one of those electric Yamaha scooters that look like the BW's of the early 1990's, I had one at Uni that I used to zip about on, but they max out at something like 26mph, which is dangerous in todays traffic.
(I think it's called a Neo)

I'd happily have something to nip around the village on, nipping into town or visiting family close by, but they're all shite.

The Seat Mo was pretty good when we had one on demo. Well, when I say pretty good, I mean it was better then I thought it would be, but then, the bar was set very low. It is a 125 equivalent so top speed was much higher than 30mph.
If you just wanted something local though, it'd be great.
You can pick one up for about £2500 now, still on the pricey side I guess.

[The Spin Doctor]

The Seat Mo was pretty good when we had one on demo. Well, when I say pretty good, I mean it was better then I thought it would be, but then, the bar was set very low. It is a 125 equivalent so top speed was much higher than 30mph.
If you just wanted something local though, it'd be great.
You can pick one up for about £2500 now, still on the pricey side I guess.

I'd never even heard of them, but that looks like it might be just the ticket, cheers

Ha... you really should pay my webcast a visit

Elevenses 286 Wed 9 November

Transcript of the item on the Seat Mo

Last winter I featured the Seat Mo, an e-scooter from the car manufacturer, and the company has just set two new Guinness World Records with a new model, the Seat Mó 125 Performance.

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The team relay and solo endurance record attempts took place at the Zuera International Circuit in Zaragoza, Spain.

Over the two days, the relay team travelled 1430 km (888 miles) in 24 hours.

And using the same bike, Journalist Valerio Boni managed 1158 km (719 miles) in 24 hours of riding using the same Seat Mó electric scooter.

It's still a great result even though both records were set with the batteries being swapped. It would have been interesting to see how far they got if they were recharging.

We're getting used to exaggerated claims of range, but for some reason, one pro-EV website claimed the relay record of just over 1400 kms was - quote - a similar distance to riding from Barcelona to Helsinki, Finland.

I thought that sounded unlikely since I know it's about 600 miles from the Channel coast to the Pyrenees, so I checked.

The actual distance is 3,415 km or rather more than 2000 miles.

1158 km wouldn't quite get you to Luxembourg.

Even adding both records together would only get you to the Poland - Lithuania border. You'd still have the three Baltic states, plus a ferry ride, to reach Finland.

I did check and it doesn't seem to be Seat making that claim, just the website.

The 125 Performance was due to be unveiled at the Milan show yesterday Tuesday 8 November.

[Mr. Dazzle]

For comparison like, Porsche have done more than 1500km in a standard Taycan EV in 24hr on the public road stopping to charge (I.e. no battery swaps).

https://hydraev.co.uk/world-record-for- ... 0countries.

They also did nearly 3500km on a test track in 24hrs. That's an average of nearly 100mph including the charging stops.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019/pr ... n%20Norway.