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Meanwhile if you have an hour to spare this is as good a place as any to spend it.

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Is AI used in predictive text algorithms'?

If it is, I think we're safe for a couple of generations.
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"Is chat GPT a danger to humanity?" - No

"Is chat GPT a danger to people who believe everything they read on the internet?" - Yes
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Yambo wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:17 am Is AI used in predictive text algorithms'?

If it is, I think we're safe for a cuddle of gentlemen.
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Well AI is no danger to you I suppose, so long as you don't work for BT, because BT are replacing you with AI.
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Ant wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:54 pm Well AI is no danger to you I suppose, so long as you don't work for BT, because BT are replacing you with AI.
BT got rid of people and moved CS stuff to India. That was pants, and they had to rehire CS people. I expect in 5 years time they will be rehiring again when they recognise how pants AI is.

Several other strategic errors that BT have made, I really wouldnt use them as an example of stuff.
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Ant wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:54 pm Well AI is no danger to you I suppose, so long as you don't work for BT, because BT are replacing you with AI.
With a bit of retraining they could work in the typing pool.
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dern wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:28 am "Is chat GPT a danger to humanity?" - No

"Is chat GPT a danger to people who believe everything they read on the internet?" - Yes
A brilliant observation I assume you stumbled into by accident.

Yes, there are a lot of people who will believe anything and everything they see on the internet. Paradoxically in light of your attempt at a mindless insult, that is one of the problems of AI; even now when it is still under control from human input.It can generate "stories" details and facts (aka psyops) which crate a convincing trail of deep fake evidence.

Since when were Mexicans "far right extremists"? well when it suits the narrative, plant a few "posts" purporting to be from <random Mexican> claiming to be inspired by "far right" ideology then pin the <mass shooting> in this case, on that.

One of the problems with planting fake stories or using bots on places like Twitter, for example, is that a statistical analysis can reveal anomalies in the posting(s) which point to a campaign of disinformation being made by automated software.

The other thing to remember is that it doesn't matter when the truth emerges later because the damage is done. So, all you need to do is somehow convince a large proportion of less intelligent people that <Trump is involved in Russian collusion> or < the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation> or even <Hilary Clinton emails were hacked by Russia> and the mob turns. Later when it transpires all those things were FBI/CIA psyops (sponsored by Hilary Clinton!) it doesn't matter, the deed is done.

How does AI and ChatGPT fit into that sort of scenario? Easy. When I said "I want a porn film starring Kylie Minogue when she was fit" 1. I probably would watch that (for research purposes) and 2. A powerful AI will be able to manufacture that sort of footage, in full HD if not 3D. In fact it could probably make a decent job of it right now. Goodness knows what it will be capable of in six months and when/if it becomes self-aware and a sentient being all bets are off. No one knows what happens next.

Sooner or later such stories will start to emerge. My money is on "Trump caught with his pants down in an elevator" (the Holy Grail of internet memes). Full video, dodgy quality, backed up by cctv records but weeks later denounced as deep fake. So yes, dumb fucks being fooled by "internet" disinformation. You put your finger right on it despite not knowing what the fuck you are talking about.
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Screwdriver wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:02 pm
dern wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:28 am "Is chat GPT a danger to humanity?" - No

"Is chat GPT a danger to people who believe everything they read on the internet?" - Yes
A brilliant observation I assume you stumbled into by accident.

Yes, there are a lot of people who will believe anything and everything they see on the internet. Paradoxically in light of your attempt at a mindless insult, that is one of the problems of AI; even now when it is still under control from human input.It can generate "stories" details and facts (aka psyops) which crate a convincing trail of deep fake evidence.

Since when were Mexicans "far right extremists"? well when it suits the narrative, plant a few "posts" purporting to be from <random Mexican> claiming to be inspired by "far right" ideology then pin the <mass shooting> in this case, on that.

One of the problems with planting fake stories or using bots on places like Twitter, for example, is that a statistical analysis can reveal anomalies in the posting(s) which point to a campaign of disinformation being made by automated software.

The other thing to remember is that it doesn't matter when the truth emerges later because the damage is done. So, all you need to do is somehow convince a large proportion of less intelligent people that <Trump is involved in Russian collusion> or < the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation> or even <Hilary Clinton emails were hacked by Russia> and the mob turns. Later when it transpires all those things were FBI/CIA psyops (sponsored by Hilary Clinton!) it doesn't matter, the deed is done.

How does AI and ChatGPT fit into that sort of scenario? Easy. When I said "I want a porn film starring Kylie Minogue when she was fit" 1. I probably would watch that (for research purposes) and 2. A powerful AI will be able to manufacture that sort of footage, in full HD if not 3D. In fact it could probably make a decent job of it right now. Goodness knows what it will be capable of in six months and when/if it becomes self-aware and a sentient being all bets are off. No one knows what happens next.

Sooner or later such stories will start to emerge. My money is on "Trump caught with his pants down in an elevator" (the Holy Grail of internet memes). Full video, dodgy quality, backed up by cctv records but weeks later denounced as deep fake. So yes, dumb fucks being fooled by "internet" disinformation. You put your finger right on it despite not knowing what the fuck you are talking about.
I stumbled upon it by joint virtues of being a software engineer of about 35 years of experience and an observer of dumb arse assumptions like yours about AI. If you want a discussion then wind your rudeness in, tone down your absolute certainty and pull back on your paranoia.
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Hang on, lemmie grab a beer and popcorn...
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dern wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:45 pm
Screwdriver wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:02 pm
dern wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:28 am "Is chat GPT a danger to humanity?" - No

"Is chat GPT a danger to people who believe everything they read on the internet?" - Yes
A brilliant observation I assume you stumbled into by accident.

Yes, there are a lot of people who will believe anything and everything they see on the internet. Paradoxically in light of your attempt at a mindless insult, that is one of the problems of AI; even now when it is still under control from human input.It can generate "stories" details and facts (aka psyops) which crate a convincing trail of deep fake evidence.

Since when were Mexicans "far right extremists"? well when it suits the narrative, plant a few "posts" purporting to be from <random Mexican> claiming to be inspired by "far right" ideology then pin the <mass shooting> in this case, on that.

One of the problems with planting fake stories or using bots on places like Twitter, for example, is that a statistical analysis can reveal anomalies in the posting(s) which point to a campaign of disinformation being made by automated software.

The other thing to remember is that it doesn't matter when the truth emerges later because the damage is done. So, all you need to do is somehow convince a large proportion of less intelligent people that <Trump is involved in Russian collusion> or < the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation> or even <Hilary Clinton emails were hacked by Russia> and the mob turns. Later when it transpires all those things were FBI/CIA psyops (sponsored by Hilary Clinton!) it doesn't matter, the deed is done.

How does AI and ChatGPT fit into that sort of scenario? Easy. When I said "I want a porn film starring Kylie Minogue when she was fit" 1. I probably would watch that (for research purposes) and 2. A powerful AI will be able to manufacture that sort of footage, in full HD if not 3D. In fact it could probably make a decent job of it right now. Goodness knows what it will be capable of in six months and when/if it becomes self-aware and a sentient being all bets are off. No one knows what happens next.

Sooner or later such stories will start to emerge. My money is on "Trump caught with his pants down in an elevator" (the Holy Grail of internet memes). Full video, dodgy quality, backed up by cctv records but weeks later denounced as deep fake. So yes, dumb fucks being fooled by "internet" disinformation. You put your finger right on it despite not knowing what the fuck you are talking about.
I stumbled upon it by joint virtues of being a software engineer of about 35 years of experience and an observer of dumb arse assumptions like yours about AI. If you want a discussion then wind your rudeness in, tone down your absolute certainty and pull back on your paranoia.
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Ant wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:52 pm Hang on, lemmie grab a beer and popcorn...
Best ro make that a crate of beer, and order a MacD too. This could run.
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I've been watching Star Trek TNG and it's not on there.

So you're all talking bollocks.
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The programme with the talking robot guy you mean?
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Yorick wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:20 pm I've been watching Star Trek TNG and it's not on there.

So you're all talking bollocks.
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And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
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Fucking hell. I crack a joke and idiot pedants pounce in it.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
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Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
But weirdly prophetic!