Should America grow up and seriously restrict gun use/ownership?

[ZRX61]

What do you do? All but two of the presidents in the past 40 odd years have been macho idiots, Reagan wanted to bomb Russia, Clinton chased anything with a hole and a heartbeat, W was an idiot who wanted a gulf war like his daddy and Trump, well, enough has been written to explain without me doing it.

Only Bush Sr, who had seen actual combat, and Obama came across as relatively sensible.

They should put an upper age limit on the job, there's not a hope that an 80 year old man will have the faculties of a 50yo.

Have you sen Yellen testify recently? We have Minnie Cauldwell running the Treasury

[ZRX61]

We can only hope for Desantis.

And then you can whinge about that too

Have you been back on the booze this week?

[weeksy]

We can only hope for Desantis.

And then you can whinge about that too

Have you been back on the booze this week?

Back? You know something I don't? I've not stopped.

But I'm not sure 1 bottle of beer in an evening really counts as drinking

[Mr. Dazzle]

For parity, just a reminder that Trump threatened 'fire and fury' on Kim Jong Un (after Trump, the second most volatile World leader) and to 'totally destroy' NK back in 2017, whilst also planning to blame it on someone else. Nice. When you've ousted sad-sack Biden, this is who is waiting in the wings. Win.
Is this sort of President-talk worrying or chest-beating for the dull masses or wut? Certainly it's becoming more frequent as 'we' 'choose' (quotes for added drama) increasingly unsuitable Presidents.

Trump also told Putin that if he invaded Ukraine it would be the last thing he did... & Trump was the only President I can think of that didn't start bombing the fuck out of another country.
As for who is waiting in the wings, the Democrats have no one. We can only hope for Desantis.

Trump fired off a loaf of cruise missiles when he saw dead children on CNN IIRC.

Probably Fox News thinking about it.

[Horse]

Wiki says you're right:

On the morning of 7 April 2017,[5][6] the United States launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea into Syria, aimed at Shayrat Airbase controlled by the Syrian government.[6][7][8] The strike was executed under responsibility of U.S. President Donald Trump, as a direct response to the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack that occurred on 4 April.[7][9]

[DefTrap]

Wiki says you're right:

On the morning of 7 April 2017,[5][6] the United States launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea into Syria, aimed at Shayrat Airbase controlled by the Syrian government.[6][7][8] The strike was executed under responsibility of U.S. President Donald Trump, as a direct response to the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack that occurred on 4 April.[7][9]

Short memories. Trump firing actual cruise missiles is fine, we can fergit about that. But the World is Ending because Biden has his puppet strings on Twitter maybe and is using the IRS to intimidate witnesses probably.

I think they're both mental old fools as it happens, but I'm just an old Marxist who's not scouring the YouTube basement looking for tidbits of 'proof'.

[ZRX61]

Trump fired off a loaf of cruise missiles when he saw dead children on CNN IIRC.

Probably Fox News thinking about it.

The US had already been bombing that shithole for years, it wasn't a *new* target... which I thought you could/should have figured out. Biden did the same thing, but is unable to explain why US troops are there.... but he did whine about Iran also doing the exact same thing.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Its just selective memory.

If you'd asked me to guess "how many US presidents in the last 50 years bombed a foreign country" I would guess "all of them". I don't actually know the record of each of them when it comes to "starting" wars, but I suspect any claim that Trump didn't is on pretty shaky ground.

Literally 5s of Googling on Trump for example...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 0-10%3famp

[Horse]

Never mind banning guns, Sunak is banning potholes!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65137351

[ZRX61]

[Mr. Dazzle]

Never mind banning guns, Sunak is banning potholes!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65137351

That photo makes it look like the pothole is being subjected to some sort of public schoolboy hazing ritual.

[DefTrap]

You won't get any arguments from me. But I think older folk get a lot of unkind extra flack for demonstrating traits that folk decades younger also often show, and get away with. I'm in my 50s - Can I remember random peoples names? Nope. Because I can't be arsed.

[ZRX61]

You won't get any arguments from me. But I think older folk get a lot of unkind extra flack for demonstrating traits that folk decades younger also often show, and get away with. I'm in my 50s - Can I remember random peoples names? Nope. Because I can't be arsed.

I think a case could be made for charging his wife (& possibly others) with elder abuse.

[Screwdriver]

It beggars belief that so many people still believe that this geriatric buffoon is the most popular president in the history of America. Cracking a joke saying "I'm only here for the ice cream" when he's addressing a crowd after the latest mass shooting FFS. He should definitely stick to saying only what he's being told to say.

There's no denying he got more votes than Trump (who would have been the most popular otherwise) the only contention being who's votes he got, how he got them and who counted them. But that ship has sailed...

So you're stuck with an ancient hollow man being carted around by whoever it is that's really in charge. Most likely a cabal formed by Obama, Clinton and their corporate chums. Obama once said in an ideal situation, he'd be sitting behind a dummy president so he could get on with the job of running the country (into the ground).

It is often said whoever is writing his cue cards is the real president. They should stick this dummy on wheels or do what they normally do with puppets and keep him on a string. At least then he wouldn't keep falling over.

[Hoonercat]

Some chap (Matt Taibbi) is being grilled by congress over the Twitter files. The Dems are annoyed that all of their "secret" backroom manipulations are being revealed to the world. Like the embedded FBI agents effectively running Twitter as a propaganda machine for the left or the "Russia collusion" story invented by Hilary Clinton et. al.

On the day he was due to testify, the IRS inexplicably TURNED UP AT HIS HOUSE for no good reason. Clearly someone thought it was a good idea to remind this journalist who he is fucking with.

All it has done is shown more partisan behaviour where the mechanisms of public office are being weaponised by the left.

Got to be the worst attempt at intimidation ever, turning up when he's out and leaving a note which he read after testifying. I wouldn't call identity theft 'no good reason'.

The taxman left a note instructing Mr. Taibbi to call the IRS four days later. Mr. Taibbi was told in a call with the agent that both his 2018 and 2021 tax returns had been rejected owing to concerns over identity theft.

Yes I saw that claim which was made after the fact. Given that you appear to accept that IRS agents did in fact turn up at this reporters address, how often do they make such house calls? Is it relatively common or as has been suggested, vanishingly rare? Don't you think they'd write first to express their concerns?

Is it then just a "coincidence" that at or around the time of this journalists testimony somebody decided now was a good time for the IRS to pay him a visit? Just a coincidence right? Really? You believe that?

The concern was identify theft. Have a good, hard think about why they might have wanted to have seen him in person...
and then explain why they chose to 'intimidate' him after he'd given evidence

[Mr. Dazzle]

Given that you appear to accept that IRS agents did in fact turn up at this reporters address, how often do they make such house calls? Is it relatively common or as has been suggested, vanishingly rare? Don't you think they'd write first to express their concerns?

Common enough they talk about it on their own website.

How do you know they didn't write first? They're hardly gonna give chapter and verse on the details of an ongoing case are they.

You could just as easily cherry pick the facts to say this guy (never heard of em until just now BTW) is a dodgy fucker who steals identity and who's evidence cannot be trusted. Not saying he is, but that's a conclusion I can draw from the evidence too.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/understand ... g%20return.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/how-to-kno ... -your-door

[Screwdriver]

The concern was identify theft. Have a good, hard think about why they might have wanted to have seen him in person...
and then explain why they chose to 'intimidate' him after he'd given evidence

As I said previously, it is easy to come up with a reasonable sounding excuse after the fact but they can’t change the timing of the visit.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press ... t-american

Neither can you.

Now that the Democratic Party no longer have complete control of the house and senate, they can’t get away with these sorts of antics, the truth will emerge eventually.

The truth is as elusive as ever but it will emerge eventually. I merely express an opinion but the timing looks suspiciously like a warning. I don’t buy the “identity theft” story, nor do I believe the IRS conduct that sort of investigation in that manner anyway.

[Ant]

........I merely express an opinion.....

Careful, they might try to cancel you.

[Cousin Jack]

Dictators never like guns in the hands of Joe Public. One of Hitler's first actions was to require all guns to be registered, after that they were restricted to his own supporters, Nazi Party members.

[wheelnut]

Dictators never like guns in the hands of Joe Public. One of Hitler's first actions was to require all guns to be registered, after that they were restricted to his own supporters, Nazi Party members.

So are we saying that the uk gov are dictators, or is it a not mutually exclusive thing?