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Taipan wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:40 pm

Dodgy knees wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:32 pm When I don't need top box, the rack comes off aswel. 5 mins.

Mine got the shad system which relocates the indicators, so I don't think its that straightforward? I'll check though!

Mine is a Givi and could come off, but it's 4 bolts under the undertray and then the footpegs taking off/on. Can't be arsed.

For the life of me I can't get on with the quickshifter? Maybe I need to just persevere, but it just seems so wrong? I'm no stranger to clutchless upshifts, but not backing off the throttle...

Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:34 am For the life of me I can't get on with the quickshifter? Maybe I need to just persevere, but it just seems so wrong? I'm no stranger to clutchless upshifts, but not backing off the throttle...

You're the first i've known to say that... everyone loves them.... i don't always use mine going down.... but up, yeah every time.

Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:34 am For the life of me I can't get on with the quickshifter? Maybe I need to just persevere, but it just seems so wrong? I'm no stranger to clutchless upshifts, but not backing off the throttle...

Just a gimmick. Just ride normally.

weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:45 am

Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:34 am For the life of me I can't get on with the quickshifter? Maybe I need to just persevere, but it just seems so wrong? I'm no stranger to clutchless upshifts, but not backing off the throttle...

You're the first i've known to say that... everyone loves them.... i don't always use mine going down.... but up, yeah every time.

I appreciate I'm n a class of one here, but I can't help thinking I'm damaging something! I'm only wearing trainers at the moment, so maybe I'll feel different with bike boots on? I must say blatting it through tunnels listening to the exhaust is bloody lovely though! I think I'll try and find my ankle bike boots and see if that does make it feel better?

I'm in a minority as well, never ridden a bike with a QS. It's not troubling me unduly...

mangocrazy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:53 am I'm in a minority as well, never ridden a bike with a QS. It's not troubling me unduly...

We could form a club. The 'Slowshifts', meet every Tuesday in the snug, down at 'The Flymo'd Frog'.

Agenda:

30 minutes of 'Wouldn't have had in my daying'
15 minutes of 'Well I nevering'
60 minutes of aerobic 'tut-tutting'
15 minutes hi-intensity 'It's all gone to the dogs these daysing'
15 minutes cool-down and general reminiscing
AOB

Quickshifter is a nice thing on a bike,not necessary at all for the road,but when it comes down to it,neither are bikes.

I'd certainly use it if a bike came stock with one,but I wouldn't bother fitting an aftermarket jobbie. Mine has no leccy aids apart from ABS.

It's probably just years of inbuilt mechanical sympathy that makes it feel wrong to you TenPin,but if you can get over that,you'll probably enjoy it. Going back to a bike with no QS may be more problematic.

Count Steer wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:30 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:53 am I'm in a minority as well, never ridden a bike with a QS. It's not troubling me unduly...

We could form a club. The 'Slowshifts', meet every Tuesday in the snug, down at 'The Flymo'd Frog'.

Agenda:

30 minutes of 'Wouldn't have had in my daying'
15 minutes of 'Well I nevering'
60 minutes of aerobic 'tut-tutting'
15 minutes hi-intensity 'It's all gone to the dogs these daysing'
15 minutes cool-down and general reminiscing
AOB

Didn't Triumph have a slickshift gearbox back in your day?

Count Steer wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:30 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:53 am I'm in a minority as well, never ridden a bike with a QS. It's not troubling me unduly...

We could form a club. The 'Slowshifts', meet every Tuesday in the snug, down at 'The Flymo'd Frog'.

Agenda:

30 minutes of 'Wouldn't have had in my daying'
15 minutes of 'Well I nevering'
60 minutes of aerobic 'tut-tutting'
15 minutes hi-intensity 'It's all gone to the dogs these daysing'
15 minutes cool-down and general reminiscing
AOB

There's a pattern developing here - first of all Weeksy gently pulling me up on my use of 'smartphone' (apparently it's just 'phone' now, the smart bit is automatically assumed), then CS attributing all sorts of fogey-speak to me.

slowsider wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:47 pm

Count Steer wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:30 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:53 am I'm in a minority as well, never ridden a bike with a QS. It's not troubling me unduly...

We could form a club. The 'Slowshifts', meet every Tuesday in the snug, down at 'The Flymo'd Frog'.

Agenda:

30 minutes of 'Wouldn't have had in my daying'
15 minutes of 'Well I nevering'
60 minutes of aerobic 'tut-tutting'
15 minutes hi-intensity 'It's all gone to the dogs these daysing'
15 minutes cool-down and general reminiscing
AOB

Didn't Triumph have a slickshift gearbox back in your day?

Dunno. From my memory of Brit gearboxes a quickshift would have simply got you from one neutral to another faster while sounding like you were grinding coffee beans. An auto double-declutch would have been though. Getting my first Japanese bike was like taking off a pair of shoes 2 sizes too small - something of a relief.

mangocrazy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:20 pm

Count Steer wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:30 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:53 am I'm in a minority as well, never ridden a bike with a QS. It's not troubling me unduly...

We could form a club. The 'Slowshifts', meet every Tuesday in the snug, down at 'The Flymo'd Frog'.

Agenda:

30 minutes of 'Wouldn't have had in my daying'
15 minutes of 'Well I nevering'
60 minutes of aerobic 'tut-tutting'
15 minutes hi-intensity 'It's all gone to the dogs these daysing'
15 minutes cool-down and general reminiscing
AOB

There's a pattern developing here - first of all Weeksy gently pulling me up on my use of 'smartphone' (apparently it's just 'phone' now, the smart bit is automatically assumed), then CS attributing all sorts of fogey-speak to me.


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I did say 'we could....' I'm club secretary.

Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:47 am

weeksy wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:45 am

Taipan wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:34 am For the life of me I can't get on with the quickshifter? Maybe I need to just persevere, but it just seems so wrong? I'm no stranger to clutchless upshifts, but not backing off the throttle...

You're the first i've known to say that... everyone loves them.... i don't always use mine going down.... but up, yeah every time.

I appreciate I'm n a class of one here, but I can't help thinking I'm damaging something! I'm only wearing trainers at the moment, so maybe I'll feel different with bike boots on? I must say blatting it through tunnels listening to the exhaust is bloody lovely though! I think I'll try and find my ankle bike boots and see if that does make it feel better?

I don't think you are in a class of one. When I rode Weeksy's XSR the first time he asked me what I thought of the QS, given I'd used it exactly once in about a 10 mile ride I couldn't give much of an opinion Habit had me using the clutch.

The second time I rode it I did use the QS most of the time. But only cos I kept repeating 'It's got a QS' in my head. I think over time I'd get used to it, but a bit like TC and ABS 27 years of bike riding conditioning I find hard to reprogram.

One of my earplugs popped out as I left work. My exhaust may not have been as quiet as I thought! Sounds fooking aces though!

QS up is great on road or track, it's just easy and becomes the norm. QS down on road is a bit, well, I've pretty much stopped using it, no hard braking on road much. On track it's ace, banging down on big brakes, it makes lot's of sense.

Change tyres today, putting back wheel back in, was a fvukin nightmare. Back brake ain't right. Away from home at mo, in Ashbourne, but will have to look again.

Didn't even know you could downshift with it! Thought that was a blipper! I should stick to scoots right!

Count Steer wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:20 pm Dunno. From my memory of Brit gearboxes a quickshift would have simply got you from one neutral to another faster while sounding like you were grinding coffee beans. An auto double-declutch would have been though. Getting my first Japanese bike was like taking off a pair of shoes 2 sizes too small - something of a relief.

I've done clutchless shifting up and down loads on the Bonnie. It was forced on me the first time after the clutch lever became the latest component to make a break for it, but now I can do it on demand. 1st to 2nd is a bit hard, but everything else is fine.

If you don't do clutchless upshifts (on a bike without a QS) are you even a biker?

That's what makes it so hard to not shut the throttle on bikes with QS'.

The only downside to this bike is the rock hard plank of a seat. Even now I still have a sore arse by the time I get to work or home. So I've admitted defeat and decided to buy a comfort seat. Thats not as easy as it sounds, as opinions vary as to which is better out of an OEM comfort seat or a shad or a custom build on your own one? But the clincher was finding out the OEM one gives more leg room and I know how much I appreciated that on my F800 and MT07, so trigger pulled and the Yamaha Comfort Seat will be here next week!

I keep thinking about the remap but am more drawn to that to lower the engine running temps although I suppose it could be running a bit leaner now with the BW system on. Prices are strange though. £150 post in at Weeksys recommended place or £260 at Setons. They all use the same software so the differnce seems a bit spiteful just to drop some points around on the A/F ratio! I could maybe ride up to Setons in Colchester and whip off the ECU and get them to do it whilst I wait, which would be more convenient if they would do that? I'll sleep on it for a bit I think?

My seat isn't too bad, but it's not as good as the Duke was. I've considered one of these as know a couple of people with them and they say they add comfort as well as cooling, not sure I've ever really suffered from hot butt cheeks I must say.

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