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Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:15 pm
by weeksy
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:09 pm
One other point: when out training, I stuck to speed limits, etc. Just because a trainee might want to risk their licence, didn't mean that I had to. Also, on one occasion I had a trainee (with an undisclosed health problem) bin a bike. The driver of the car that had been following us stopped specifically to tell police that we had (until then) been riding sensibly and keeping to speed limits.
yeah errrrrr, i'm out !

Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:27 pm
by Horse
weeksy wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:15 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:09 pm
One other point: when out training, I stuck to speed limits, etc. Just because a trainee might want to risk their licence, didn't mean that I had to. Also, on one occasion I had a trainee (with an undisclosed health problem) bin a bike. The driver of the car that had been following us stopped specifically to tell police that we had (until then) been riding sensibly and keeping to speed limits.
yeah errrrrr, i'm out !
Some of the roads I use limit you far more than a number on a stick ever could.
https://earth.app.goo.gl/DwmN18
https://earth.app.goo.gl/aKpdvY
The first was the site of a rider fatality. Half an hour or so from you. It's like the Gooseneck with trees and oncoming vehicles.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:52 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Google Earth never works for me.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:22 pm
by Horse
The Spin Doctor wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:52 pm
Google Earth never works for me.
Don't fret, I struggle with the real world.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
by Horse

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The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:28 pm
by weeksy
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
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The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That's 90% of the roads i ride locally there
It's amazing i don't have a 690SMCR
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:31 pm
by Yorick
When I was instructing, I had the whole range of ability, but could be snipped to 3 groups.
Older folk doing their first trackday and had me booked for the whole day. Usually birthday prezzy etc. My job was to cajole/chaperone/protect/entertain etc. At 5:00 I always told the wife/family/friends what a great rider he was. He could then milk this for ages to top off the birthday treat
Then the usual TD riders who couldn't understand racing lines. With the help of my circuit diagrams, I was able to help them to go faster and safer.
Then the racers who were at the track the coming weekend. These were sometimes hard work, but often fun. I was usually volunteered as I was usually the quickest instructor on the day. Sometimes it was their first time there, or just wanted to nail one corner (usually Cadwell). Some just shot off and tried to impress me. They learned nowt. The clever ones watched and listened. I did enjoy really pushing to almost racing speed
Also the Muppets who just wanted to get their knee down. I just said "Go faster".. CBA taking them out.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:34 pm
by Horse
weeksy wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:28 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
20210702_132415.jpg
The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That's 90% of the roads i ride locally there
It's amazing i don't have a 690SMCR
If you break the speed limit on roads like that, it's amazing you haven't encountered a tractor or local boy racer
Realistically, 'advanced' riding skills (as trained, 'lines' etc) makes no difference in that particular section.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:39 pm
by weeksy
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:34 pm
If you break the speed limit on roads like that, it's amazing you haven't encountered a tractor or local boy racer
I've had a few moments

Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:41 pm
by Horse
Yorick wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:31 pm help them to go faster and safer.
These were sometimes hard work,
The two situations that I enjoyed the most: where you could see improvement (along with their enjoyment and understanding) and where I had to put more thought and effort in (sometimes to a challenge of "why?").
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:15 pm
by Couchy
Tbh I did try to get instruction on a Trackday, I told them I only wanted to get my knee down and they told me to piss off in some weird norvern accent

Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:27 pm
by Supermofo
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
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The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That was the roads to the pub I went to last night, but with added gravel down the middle.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:30 pm
by weeksy
Supermofo wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:27 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
20210702_132415.jpg
The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That was the roads to the pub I went to last night, but with added gravel down the middle.
You went to my local ? You should have come say hello

Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:36 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:22 pm
The Spin Doctor wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:52 pm
Google Earth never works for me.
Don't fret, I struggle with the real world.
I'm going to be a PITA... got a googlemaps reference?
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:58 pm
by Hairybiker84
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:14 pm
by Horse
Supermofo wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:27 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
20210702_132415.jpg
The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That was the roads to the pub I went to last night, but with added gravel down the middle.
Ah. 'Rural dual carriageway'?
Glad you were going to the pub, they're not the sort of roads to be on when you're sober.
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:46 pm
by Supermofo
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:14 pm
Supermofo wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:27 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
20210702_132415.jpg
The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That was the roads to the pub I went to last night, but with added gravel down the middle.
Ah. 'Rural dual carriageway'?
Glad you were going to the pub, they're not the sort of roads to be on when you're sober.
Hence the bottle
The more interesting part seems to have been to difficult for the google car, but this gives a flavour
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.90154 ... 6656?hl=en
Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:01 pm
by Supermofo
weeksy wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:30 pm
Supermofo wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:27 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:26 pm
20210702_132415.jpg
The second was on a test route. Within half a mile the rider goes from motorway to single lane and high hedges.
That was the roads to the pub I went to last night, but with added gravel down the middle.
You went to my local ? You should have come say hello
You've moved to Hall Green

Cool we'll be able to meet up to swap bikes more

Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:06 pm
by Hairybiker84
Nasty, excellent! Guess that's not the crab Cromer

Re: How many of you have had professional coaching to improve your road riding
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:11 pm
by Horse
I quite like that Ghostship 0.5 stuff.
Sometimes drink it out of choice ...