What bike have you ridden to the limit of it's performance?

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:36 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:22 am It's relative, of course the answer is none, for all of us.
Yeah that...

If you are riding to the limits of the bike you're saying that no-one else could get on the same bike and go faster than you on it. How many people is that true of - probably half a dozen in the whole world surely? Not even the whole MotoGP grid can make such a claim I would have thought.
That's a different thing from taking a bike to it's limits,you are talking about rider talent. A fast racer will be capable of consistently riding beyond the limits of the machine,that's what makes him faster. The machine limit doesn't change.
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Most of the time a bike's limits are actually the limits of the tyres :)
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Skub wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:51 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:36 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:22 am It's relative, of course the answer is none, for all of us.
Yeah that...

If you are riding to the limits of the bike you're saying that no-one else could get on the same bike and go faster than you on it. How many people is that true of - probably half a dozen in the whole world surely? Not even the whole MotoGP grid can make such a claim I would have thought.
That's a different thing from taking a bike to it's limits,you are talking about rider talent. A fast racer will be capable of consistently riding beyond the limits of the machine,that's what makes him faster. The machine limit doesn't change.
You and I have different understandings of the word "limit" :D

Now get out there and give it 110%!
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:39 pm
Now get out there and give it 110%!
I'm aiming for the 10% :cry:
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Yorick wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:57 pm
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Yorick wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:12 pm I did get the heads down on some BMW thingy at Donington :)
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None, if you’ve ridden a bike to 100% of the bikes limit you’re saying no one could ride it quicker.
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I've ridden every bike I've owned 167%.

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Couchy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:36 pm None, if you’ve ridden a bike to 100% of the bikes limit you’re saying no one could ride it quicker.
I largely agree with this, but you could be cack handed and take weird lines that means you're hitting the bikes limits without being very quick (why do I suspect I've just described my own riding?)
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:00 pm
Couchy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:36 pm None, if you’ve ridden a bike to 100% of the bikes limit you’re saying no one could ride it quicker.
I largely agree with this, but you could be cack handed and take weird lines that means you're hitting the bikes limits without being very quick (why do I suspect I've just described my own riding?)
It could be argued that's staying on despite the bike, not because of it. I'm thinking here, for example, of those occasions when both tyres are slipping into sliding, where most riders would be anticipating a trip to A&E. But some riders can just accept it and continue happily on.
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I'm happy with the tyres sliding on dirt, happy with the rear moving a bit on tarmac, I don't like front wheel slides on tarmac, I find them a bit unnerving, thing is though I don't think I'm going that quick when I get slides.
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I can count on the thumb of one hand the number of times that I've had a rear slip under drive on the road. I had just enough time to think "oh, it's sliding" in amongst trying to keep up with the bikes ahead.
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GSXR1000 K1, it hit the limiter in 5th and 6th and what was really annoying was my mate on his fiddled with ZX12 was dropping me, obvs this was not on the Pevensey Bypass which has a really tight bend at 186 and the bullet time moment I had when I made eye contact with the old boy getting out his car in the lay-by giving me a really filthy stare!

Other than that my abilities are a postage stamp on a sheet of A0 paper that is a the bikes performance.😂
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1979 z250 on a MAG rideout (in about '97), I somehow kept up with several big bikes including a ZX6r (" it doesn't matter how fast I go, you're always there in the mirror"). My footpegs were worn to a wedge by the end of the day.

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It's a thought provoker, but I think you'd have to ask the best rider in the world, with the best tyres in the world. 👍
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:15 pm I'm happy with the tyres sliding on dirt, happy with the rear moving a bit on tarmac, I don't like front wheel slides on tarmac, I find them a bit unnerving, thing is though I don't think I'm going that quick when I get slides.
On tarmac I've probably had 2 front end slides, both on track and both ended up as crashes. I've had a fair few rear wheel slides under power but they don't really register. If you're getting front end slides and not crashing or going fast maybe they aren't slides ?
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Couchy wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:07 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:15 pm I'm happy with the tyres sliding on dirt, happy with the rear moving a bit on tarmac, I don't like front wheel slides on tarmac, I find them a bit unnerving, thing is though I don't think I'm going that quick when I get slides.
On tarmac I've probably had 2 front end slides, both on track and both ended up as crashes. I've had a fair few rear wheel slides under power but they don't really register. If you're getting front end slides and not crashing or going fast maybe they aren't slides ?
Most decent racers can save a rear slide.
Only folk like MM can save a front slide.
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Yorick wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:14 pm Most decent racers can save a rear slide.
Only folk like MM can save a front slide.
I couldn't find the pic (don't know the rider's name) of the Ducati at a track launch where the guy is knee down a giving the photographer the bird (or similar). That's probably many levels above anything I could do.
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Horse wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:41 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:14 pm Most decent racers can save a rear slide.
Only folk like MM can save a front slide.
I couldn't find the pic (don't know the rider's name) of the Ducati at a track launch where the guy is knee down a giving the photographer the bird (or similar). That's probably many levels above anything I could do.
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