Exactly- you can put whatever cartridge kit, springs shock on it, alter ride heights and other "bolt-able" type adjustments but you will only change it to a certain degree - it'll still feel like an XSR, great if you like an XSR, not so much if you want a different feeling/handling bikeweeksy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:14 amThat's where we start getting into the crazy realms...KungFooBob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:10 am Ship the forks off to Brooks and have them install these...
https://www.brooksuspension.co.uk/yamah ... ge-kit-16/
They charge about £170 to service forks, so I imagine fitting would be similar.
So that's £600 on the front end, £800 on the rear and i still may think "Honda still felt better" and i'm now an extra £1500 in.
Don't forget, we're not talking about a rubbish bike here in the XSR, it's already a cracking thing and handles great.... Just not AS great
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That's my view too.
I spent considerably more than I'd anticipated on getting the suspension the way I wanted.Nearly a grand on a forks revamp isn't to be sniffed at in my world,but I keep my bikes fairly long term,so because it gives me pleasure I can justify it to myself.
I didn't want 'plush' from the suspenders,I wanted compliant. I wanted something that wouldn't hammer me to death on shitty roads,nor throw me off line on a bumpy corner. It's always going to be a compromise on the road,with most bikes on stock suspension you can have 'plush' which will come with vague and wandering,or more sporty,giving more feel but less comfort on real roads.
The middle ground is the holy grail for me. I've only ever found that with aftermarket suspension.
I've never ever regretted spending money on brakes or suspension.
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The only consideration with my purchases are, can i afford it.... and how will Welsh muffin react
As long as i can afford it and i want it, it gets bought.. The potential value in 1 month, 6 months or 5 years isn't of any importance to me.
As long as i can afford it and i want it, it gets bought.. The potential value in 1 month, 6 months or 5 years isn't of any importance to me.
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Well i got a call back from yesterdays discussions which were interesting. Without getting into too many details they offered me £6500 for the XSR900 which is a decent price.
However, as we've discussed this morning, i won't be taking it up... But was deffo an interesting experience riding it.
However, as we've discussed this morning, i won't be taking it up... But was deffo an interesting experience riding it.
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I see Weeksy on a Harley cruiser soon. So much to polish and clean
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The main issue with the xsr and the mt it’s based on is the long forks and high front end. This made a bit worse as the xsr also has higher bars. Lower bars on the xsr would give more front end feel and the suspension would also help but you’ll never overcome the high front end. The CB is lower at the front but the main benefit is it’s a Honda and they always make very user friendly bikes, more so than any other maker. I really like that about them. Still I must try the CB and compare it to the Tuono
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Well, you call it an 'issue' but it's not actually an issue, it's a great bike. It handles really well.Couchy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:22 pm The main issue with the xsr and the mt it’s based on is the long forks and high front end. This made a bit worse as the xsr also has higher bars. Lower bars on the xsr would give more front end feel and the suspension would also help but you’ll never overcome the high front end. The CB is lower at the front but the main benefit is it’s a Honda and they always make very user friendly bikes, more so than any other maker. I really like that about them. Still I must try the CB and compare it to the Tuono
However, the Honda handles better yes.
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Triple engine, with a good chassis have you ever tried an MV?
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Not one of that genre, only 1000f4 and 312.KungFooBob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:51 pm Triple engine, with a good chassis have you ever tried an MV?
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But it and take a spark plug out.weeksy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:26 pmWell, you call it an 'issue' but it's not actually an issue, it's a great bike. It handles really well.Couchy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:22 pm The main issue with the xsr and the mt it’s based on is the long forks and high front end. This made a bit worse as the xsr also has higher bars. Lower bars on the xsr would give more front end feel and the suspension would also help but you’ll never overcome the high front end. The CB is lower at the front but the main benefit is it’s a Honda and they always make very user friendly bikes, more so than any other maker. I really like that about them. Still I must try the CB and compare it to the Tuono
However, the Honda handles better yes.
If they could use a Yamaha triple engine, I'd buy it tomorrow
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I've never had a go, but the MV's seem like premium versions of the CP3 engine'd Yamahas.
I wouldn't shit on a Triumph Triple if it was on fire and eating chips.
I wouldn't shit on a Triumph Triple if it was on fire and eating chips.
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I don't have premium budget. For a 19 we'd by up in the £11-12k. That's almost double the XSR. I've not ridden one, but it can't be double the bikeKungFooBob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:57 pm I've never had a go, but the MV's seem like premium versions of the CP3 engine'd Yamahas.
I wouldn't shit on a Triumph Triple if it was on fire and eating chips.
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Just for comparison you should try an 18/19 MV Dragster.
I thought it was a great chassis and flattered my riding.
I thought it was a great chassis and flattered my riding.
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I bought a CB1000R when they were first out, used it as my commuter for a couple of months then sold it on and bought a 1050 Speed Triple. Purely my opinion, but 4 cylinder motors don't really have a place in naked bikes. I've owned a few over the years that always seemed like a good idea at the time but have been sold a few weeks later. The Speed Triple was an altogether nicer bike, as was the KTM that I bought after that.
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Are they too quick for you to catch up with?KungFooBob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:57 pm I've never had a go, but the MV's seem like premium versions of the CP3 engine'd Yamahas.
I wouldn't shit on a Triumph Triple if it was on fire and eating chips.
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I test rode an s1000r today nice bike but did nothing for me, handled well and fast but more than happy too climb back on my Ktm.Pirahna wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:20 pm I bought a CB1000R when they were first out, used it as my commuter for a couple of months then sold it on and bought a 1050 Speed Triple. Purely my opinion, but 4 cylinder motors don't really have a place in naked bikes. I've owned a few over the years that always seemed like a good idea at the time but have been sold a few weeks later. The Speed Triple was an altogether nicer bike, as was the KTM that I bought after that.
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1. How much would the Honda have to change (if even reasonable to do) to achieve that?
2. Is it worth the aggro?
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