Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[wheelnut]

Again, I could accept that situation if they hadn't just told the UK population to relax and fill their boots, 'appen covid is finished now and they're all good to go out and do whatever they want, including as much international travel and pissed up holidays abroad as they can afford.

If there was "as much international travel and pissed up holidays abroad as they can afford"

then you wouldn't need to be quarantined in a ....

...government prison hotel, staffed by halfwits. A search on the internet shows pictures of food and conditions in some of them that you wouldn't give to a dog

[Cousin Jack]

The real problem is that what are sensible rules to stop Covid will totally wreck the economy and fuck-up a whole generation of kid's education.

Take your pick, a few 000 deaths now, or become another 3rd world country with no economy to speak of, a generation of kids who cannot read or write, and a £ worth about 0.01 US$

[gremlin]

I Know it's subjective, and everybody has a differing perspective based on personal situations, but I'm always surprised by the amount of people who seem to happy that we continue in some form of restricted personal freedom, ad infinitum. I'm no conspiracy nutter or rabid anarchist, but the last 18 months have seen the worst restrictions on personal liberty that history has ever seen, albeit necessarily.
However, now that the vulnerable groups have been jabbed, let those who want to go out and live their lives normally do so. If individuals are scared to go out, living in fear of the different variants of covid, from Alpha to Omega, then that's their personal choice. Let them stay indoors and be safe, the rest of us who have a slightly less risk-averse attitude to life and enjoy the freedoms we are entitled to. We all have to die at some point.

[slowsider]

So the government and the science have said

That implies they are in lockstep, which is not the case.

[DefTrap]

then that's their personal choice.

Well 'their personal choice' seems to be impacting somewhat 'my personal choice' and 'just put up with it or die' isn't really flying for me at the moment.

[wheelnut]

then that's their personal choice.

Well 'their personal choice' seems to be impacting somewhat 'my personal choice' and 'just put up with it or die' isn't really flying for me at the moment.

Apart from an indefinite lockdown what are the options? The vast majority have been jabbed, and that was always touted as our only way out of this mess. We've been jabbed now. The virus will do what it does. It may mutate in to something that escapes the vaccine, it may not. We can't live our life locked down in case something 'might' happen though.

[wheelnut]

I'm clearly talking about a certain type of person, they won't be travelling to the Maldives to stay in £5k a week hotels, they're going to party islands in the Med - the same ones that I will have to transit through and rub shoulders with them.

Yeah, I'm just pissed off because I'm not allowed to visit my little hovel.

[weeksy]

Again, I could accept that situation if they hadn't just told the UK population to relax and fill their boots, 'appen covid is finished now and they're all good to go out and do whatever they want, including as much international travel and pissed up holidays abroad as they can afford.

If there was "as much international travel and pissed up holidays abroad as they can afford"

then you wouldn't need to be quarantined in a ....

...government prison hotel, staffed by halfwits. A search on the internet shows pictures of food and conditions in some of them that you wouldn't give to a dog

I'm clearly talking about a certain type of person, they won't be travelling to the Maldives to stay in £5k a week hotels, they're going to party islands in the Med - the same ones that I will have to transit through and rub shoulders with them.

Lol you snob. We were all that type of person once

[gremlin]

Lol you snob. We were all that type of person once

Still am, Geez!

[gremlin]

then that's their personal choice.

Well 'their personal choice' seems to be impacting somewhat 'my personal choice' and 'just put up with it or die' isn't really flying for me at the moment.

As I said. You can stay indoors and be safe. That option has always been open to you, no matter what the risks and how you choose to mitigate them.

The rights of millions of people, to live fulfilling lives, doing the small things that make life bearable, enjoyable even, were taken away in order to protect the vulnerable. Particularly the young. They've suffered enough, as have the people with mental health issues, lack of employment opportunities, missed non-covid health issues and those silly life events, like an end of school prom, leaving drink, funeral for a loved one.

It's time to give the people of this country their freedom back.

[weeksy]

It's time to give the people of this country their freedom back.

In your mind. Not everyone

[gremlin]

It's time to give the people of this country their freedom back.

In your mind. Not everyone

You happy to carry on like this ad infinitum then? When should normality resume?

[weeksy]

You happy to carry on like this ad infinitum then? When should normality resume?

I'm fine buddy, it affects my life 0%

[gremlin]

You happy to carry on like this ad infinitum then? When should normality resume?

I'm fine buddy, it affects my life 0%

And what if it affect's your boy's life? No sports day, no prom, birthday parties, etc. no Are you happy him growing up without the things we were happy to partake in and took for granted, but just as happy to withhold from a generation?

[Yorick]

Lol you snob. We were all that type of person once

You misunderstand mate, I think those places are ace, I'd love a week in Benidorm, but they're frequented by people that in the evening will get pissed up and act irresponsibly during a pandemic and whilst normally I'd shrug and head off to my hotel when the louts start to party it won't help me much this time because they'll be out spreading covid and I'll have no choice but to mix with them at the airport.

I have a video on my phone from a couple of days ago in Ibiza and its carnage, pissed up party stuff that is as good as anything you'll see on a Brits Abroad documentary, they don't give a shit.

It's got fuck all to do with snobbery, I just don't want to risk killing any of my family by trying to squeeze through a gauntlet of wankers who don't care about covid.

Nothing like that here. Even in the chavvy tourist resort. Very quiet.

[Horse]

become another 3rd world country with no economy to speak of, a generation of kids who cannot read or write,

I blame the teachers. Oh, hang on ...

Perhaps we need something like this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Air

[weeksy]

You happy to carry on like this ad infinitum then? When should normality resume?

I'm fine buddy, it affects my life 0%

And what if it affect's your boy's life? No sports day, no prom, birthday parties, etc. no Are you happy him growing up without the things we were happy to partake in and took for granted, but just as happy to withhold from a generation?

LOL you've picked nothing he actually cares about. We're still going MTBing, we're still going for coffee, cake and ice cream, we're still doing uplifts and he's still going to the park with his mates, he even went to the cinema last weekend with his mate (his first big boy adventure on his own). I don't believe it's affecting him in any way at all detrimentally. Sure, of course i'm only talking 'me' in this context, not everyone.... But honestly, apart from 2 mins going to a toilet in the pub, or wearing the mask in the supermarket, the current restrictions are barely affecting me.

It'd be nice to go abroad for a holiday, but we've accepted it's not happening this year, so we've booked Peak district and 5 days out in Wales MTBing. So we're all getting our fix of what we need to keep us happy.

[DefTrap]

And what if it affect's your boy's life? No sports day, no prom, birthday parties, etc. no Are you happy him growing up without the things we were happy to partake in and took for granted, but just as happy to withhold from a generation?

I'll take a poll of my kids - they're older but the same applies - you can go to the pub, have a 'normal' uni life with actual physical interactions (yes I do mean major league bonking), go to your graduation - but there's a 5% chance you might have to sacrifice granddad?

I think they'd carry on doing what they have been doing, grin and bear it.

[Mussels]

And what if it affect's your boy's life? No sports day, no prom, birthday parties, etc. no Are you happy him growing up without the things we were happy to partake in and took for granted, but just as happy to withhold from a generation?

You had a prom? And brithday parties as a teenager?
You were either very privileged or a bit special.

[gremlin]

You had a prom? And brithday parties as a teenager?
You were either very privileged or a bit special.

My mum says I'm 'special'.

Always took it as a compliment, but you've planted the seed of doubt in my mind now...