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Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 pm I did, and may do again. :)
I've upped the game on debriefs... you now get a video of the ride (at least, when I don't forget to put the memory card back in the camera) plus a Zoom debrief using some clips from the video! Much improved on the 'quick chat at the end of the ride', the tick-list score chart or even the written debrief I used to offer.

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Dodgy knees wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:58 am So what's the correct position over a crest, I'd guess middle of lane. πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ
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Dodgy knees wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:46 pm So what's the correct position over a crest, I'd guess middle of lane. πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ
What's the potential hazard you're most likely to encounter?

I've had this debate many a time with advanced observers / instructors and they nearly always say "left of centre in case something's overtaking towards you".

On a rural road, that would be a sound choice most of the time, and by keeping left I've certainly avoided a head-on with someone who cocked up an overtake and hadn't completed it before tipping the rise.

If I was in London, I'd be concerned more concerned about a parked vehicle.

There's no right / wrong answer. It's a case of knowing what could go wrong and trying to balance the risk. And of course slowing down a bit so that some evasive action is possible in an emergency.
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The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:09 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:49 pm I did, and may do again. :)
I've upped the game on debriefs... you now get a video of the ride (at least, when I don't forget to put the memory card back in the camera) plus a Zoom debrief using some clips from the video! Much improved on the 'quick chat at the end of the ride', the tick-list score chart or even the written debrief I used to offer.

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I liked the "wheel" you gave me when I had an assessment in the dim & distant past (15 years ago now!) Even then you had thye on-bike camera which I thought worked quite well.
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iansoady wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:14 am I liked the "wheel" you gave me when I had an assessment in the dim & distant past (15 years ago now!) Even then you had thye on-bike camera which I thought worked quite well.
The camera is an upgrade... from a 10fps VGA to full HD! You can see the output at www.youtube.com/survivalskillsuk in my 60 Second Safety vids... the quality is far superior, but the old camera did produce tiny files - a whole afternoon's riding on a 512mb SD card. Now I have a 32gb microSD card to store the footage. The problem was the video processing time - the old PC handled the VGA footage well, but struck a reef with the HD stuff. It would tie up the PC for most of the day. The new PC has a much faster, quad core processor and chomps through it in a reasonable time.

Remind me - what was 'the wheel'? :)
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The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm
iansoady wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:14 am I liked the "wheel" you gave me when I had an assessment in the dim & distant past (15 years ago now!)
Remind me - what was 'the wheel'? :)
Something like a star shape? Each radial arm starts a 0 (centre) then increments out.
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Horse wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:30 pm
The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm
iansoady wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:14 am I liked the "wheel" you gave me when I had an assessment in the dim & distant past (15 years ago now!)
Remind me - what was 'the wheel'? :)
Something like a star shape? Each radial arm starts a 0 (centre) then increments out.
I'll have to wait to find out - I've forgotten. :)
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The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:11 pm
Horse wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:30 pm
The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm

Remind me - what was 'the wheel'? :)
Something like a star shape? Each radial arm starts a 0 (centre) then increments out.
I'll have to wait to find out - I've forgotten. :)
:)

Wiki says they're 'radar plots'. Or ...

"The radar chart is also known as web chart, spider chart, spider web chart, star chart,[2] star plot, cobweb chart, irregular polygon, polar chart, or Kiviat diagram."

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They're good for an easy view at a glance. Also great for showing progress.
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Horse wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:02 pm So 'optimistic into blind bends', then? :)
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When I'm getting the opinion of someone who just observed my riding, its most often by someone wearing a CHP uniform...
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Here you are for your amusement....
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From 15 years ago, here's the 'Whole Rider' assessment format.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8kify9yus9w5j ... 5.pdf?dl=0
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iansoady wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:07 pm Here you are for your amusement....

assessment.jpg
I had COMPLETELY forgotten that!

I wonder why I stopped using it? It may have been about the time i lost a shed-load of stuff when a drive partially corrupted but still managed to back itself up and overwrite the storage which I should have been able to restore from. I know I lost a shed-load of digital photos.

Impressed you still had it :) :clap:
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I still use a simplified version 'whole rider'
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The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:20 pm I still use a simplified version 'whole rider'
The original version was branded as the'RIdas' Whlle Rider Assessment '.
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The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:18 pm
Impressed you still had it :) :clap:
I never throw anything away..... I have the videos as well but haven't looked at them for a long time.

I do think that graphic representation is very useful.
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Horse wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:56 pm
The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:20 pm I still use a simplified version 'whole rider'
The original version was branded as the'RIdas' Whlle Rider Assessment '.
So many typos in one post ...
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So today went on another jaunt, we clocked up 100k floating around the french lanes.
Nothing to report, putting me forward for observation from all the mentors, so next stop, a blue badge πŸ€ͺ
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Demannu wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:16 pm So today went on another jaunt, we clocked up 100k floating around the french lanes.
Nothing to report, putting me forward for observation from all the mentors, so next stop, a blue badge πŸ€ͺ
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