Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

[Dodgy69]

2nd jab on fri 28. Not the may 28 I had earlier planned .

[Supermofo]

Had my 2nd jab on Wed. This time around the jab itself hurt with a definite burn to it which I didn't have first time. Also instant dead arm vs it taking 12 odd hours first time. But other than feeling really tired yesterday I've had no other side effects. So another 3 weeks and I'll be like Batfink and protected as I'm gonna be

[irie]

Had my 2nd jab on Wed. This time around the jab itself hurt with a definite burn to it which I didn't have first time. Also instant dead arm vs it taking 12 odd hours first time. But other than feeling really tired yesterday I've had no other side effects. So another 3 weeks and I'll be like Batfink and protected as I'm gonna be

Have to admit that my first jab didn't hurt at all because the nurse was a stunner, but the second jab did hurt a bit because the nurse wasn't up to the same standards.

[wheelnut]

Local radio DJ + 40 yrs old and healthy. Dead a week after the AZ vaccine, severe headaches, blood clots and never came round.

[Yorick]

Local radio DJ + 40 yrs old and healthy. Dead a week after the AZ vaccine, severe headaches, blood clots and never came round.

Hmm. Could be coincidence.

I knew a bloke who won the lottery a day after his jab. Freaky.

[Yambo]

Local radio DJ + 40 yrs old and healthy. Dead a week after the AZ vaccine, severe headaches, blood clots and never came round.

The BBC reports that the AZ jab was being looked at as 'a complication'. The lass was apparently healthy but could well have had underlying issues that neither she, or anyone else knew about. There are plenty of examples - at 55 I thought I was fit and healthy, then I had a heart attack. My BiL, couple of years older than me told me that he was fit and healthy (this was a few months after my by-pass op) and that his annual medical, organised by the RNLI confirmed it. Six weeks later he was dead from a heart attack.

Pretty girl mind, your late DJ.

[wheelnut]

The BBC reports that the AZ jab was being looked at as 'a complication'. The lass was apparently healthy but could well have had underlying issues that neither she, or anyone else knew about. There are plenty of examples - at 55 I thought I was fit and healthy, then I had a heart attack. My BiL, couple of years older than me told me that he was fit and healthy (this was a few months after my by-pass op) and that his annual medical, organised by the RNLI confirmed it. Six weeks later he was dead from a heart attack.

Pretty girl mind, your late DJ.

I think it’s fairly well,accepted that there is a causitve link between the AZ and these particular type of blood clots. About 400 cases and 60 deaths so far. No indication as yet as to why these particular people seem to be affected and the vast majority don’t.

The odds of getting these clots are crazily low, it’s just a bit of a shitter if you happen to be the one that does.

[Pirahna]

I know of 3 people who work in the same office that have tested positive for Covid this week. All 3 have had both doses of the AZ vaccine.

[Dodgy69]

and how ill are they ???

[Horse]

Of course, there's no way of knowing how ill they would have been. But, sadly, emphasises that vaccination isn't the end of it

[Pirahna]

and how ill are they ???

Mild flu symptoms.

I've just been told of another fully AZ'd person taken into ICU this week with Covid.

[Supermofo]

and how ill are they ???

Mild flu symptoms.

I've just been told of another fully AZ'd person taken into ICU this week with Covid.

AZ is only 66% effective against the A variant, and 60% against the D variant I seem to recall reading. Although in theory is supposed to offer more protection against serious illness and death. So I suppose we will see people getting Covid and in hospital but hopefully less than if they didn't have 2 doses of AZ.

The Pfizer version seems better. Wonder if we'll get boosters of that?

[Kneerly Down]

I was due to get my 2nd AZ on Thurs this week but have to be down south so it's going to be Fri next week instead (12wks+1day since 1st AZ).
Must say that given the issues with the new variant(s) I'm going to be super cautious down south.
I was going to be flying down now but will stick to driving to lessen the risk...have done around 50,000 miles going up and down the past year (share caring for my mother in London).
I'd gone onto the Com-Cov participation page a few weeks back and kinda wish I'd followed it through but it's not open for participants currently.

[wheelnut]

Just had my second jab of AZ this evening. Still alive.

[Supermofo]

Good article here in the Guardian about vaccine effectiveness.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... e-vaccines

According to figures gathered by Public Health Scotland and published in the Lancet, at least two weeks after the second dose of Covid jabs, protection against infection fell from 92% for the Alpha variant to 79% against the Delta variant for the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, while for the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine the protection fell from 73% to 60% respectively.

According to the latest figures from Public Health England (PHE), four weeks after one dose, either vaccine offered almost 50% protection against the Alpha variant. However for the Delta variant this protection was lower, with one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech jab offering about 36% protection against symptomatic disease. For one dose of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine this figure was about 30%.

Two weeks after the second dose, the differences in vaccine effectiveness by variant were more modest, with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab offering 88% protection against symptomatic disease with the Delta variant, compared with 94% protection against the Alpha variant. For the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, the figures were 67% and 74% respectively.

According to an analysis by PHE, the Pfizer/BioNTech jab was linked to a 94% vaccine effectiveness against hospital admission with the Delta variant after one dose and 96% after two doses, while the figures for the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab were 71% and 92% respectively.

This protection against hospital admission is similar to that for the Alpha variant, for which the Pfizer figures were 83% and 95% after the first and second jabs respectively, and 76% and 86% respectively for the AstraZeneca jab.

What about deaths?
At present there is not enough data to say, but the results are expected to be promising. According to PHE: “Further work remains under way to establish the level of protection against mortality from the Delta variant. However, as with other variants, this is expected to be high.”

[Trinity765]

I had my second Astrazenica jab yesterday.

With the first and second I've taken some ibuprofen an hour before and when I got home yesterday I put some ibuprofen gel around (not over) the jab site. I took some more ibuprofen before bed and have been drinking a little more water than normal.

I feel fine. I've not even got a sore arm

[Supermofo]

I had my second Astrazenica jab yesterday.

With the first and second I've taken some ibuprofen an hour before and when I got home yesterday I put some ibuprofen gel around (not over) the jab site. I took some more ibuprofen before bed and have been drinking a little more water than normal.

I feel fine. I've not even got a sore arm

Mrs had her 2nd yesterday and was totally fine, as I was I. 2nd one does seem fine in general with the AZ.

[Mussels]

On the Beeb, the EU is claiming it as a victory.

The EU has lost a legal battle in Brussels to force Anglo-Swedish drug maker AstraZeneca to supply 120m doses of Covid-19 vaccine by the end of June.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57531064

[irie]

On the Beeb, the EU is claiming it as a victory.

The EU has lost a legal battle in Brussels to force Anglo-Swedish drug maker AstraZeneca to supply 120m doses of Covid-19 vaccine by the end of June.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57531064

Well, if the EU publicly accepted that it fucked up it would lose political face, so it has to claim it as a victory.

https://www.politico.eu/article/belgian ... ions-case/

Just in time for the French local elections on Sunday ... if anyone cares because the AZ vaccine is unwanted.

In any case:

Friday's announcement is only an interim decision by the court. The Commission also has ongoing court hearings that will continue after the summer.

[Yorick]

Just got this from my cousin's duaghter...

David has been taken in to hospital. After his vaccine 2 weeks ago he became ill on Saturday and was taken to hospital. He has something called gullien barre syndrome. He has lost all feeling in legs and arms. He was rushed down to intensive care yesterday morning and is now unconscious and on a ventilator as he has a bad chest infection.

He's obviously an unlucky one, only 58.

He still can't move his limbs after 4 months, and we got this message yesterday..

David’s heart stopped the other night and they had to perform CPR to get him back. He now has a collapsed lung and also pneumonia after mucus build up from having the breathing tube in.

He's having a fucking tough time