Norton V4 defect list

[Mr Moofo]

https://www.superbike.co.uk/article/nor ... efect-list

Wow, that's a pretty scary list.

And probably not too much of a surprise?
He is as shyster ...

[Mr. Dazzle]

Leaving aside any issues, can I just say that man that Swingarm looks expensive to make!



Sounds like the bikes were released before they were ready (yeah, shocking insight I know). The list of problems is all stuff you'd expect on a dev prototype, nothing earth shattering just a lot of little-ish stuff. Except maybe the swingarm that is, but that looks highly prone to cracks in the design they've got.

[Yorick]

I hope John McGuiness doesn't see that list

[Dodgy69]

Remember this pic.....

[KungFooBob]

Remember this pic.....

That's the rear engine mount bolt... which isn't on the list

[Mr. Dazzle]

That's cause everybody already knows about that fault.

[Demannu]

I've not kept up with the saga, has Garner got away with it all or has he been prosecuted for anything yet?

He's been ordered to pay back a sizeable amount............but like that's ever going to happen.
Transfer all his assets to his wife, job jobbed!

[G.P]

I can't believe that fucker isn't in prison?

[Yorick]

I've not kept up with the saga, has Garner got away with it all or has he been prosecuted for anything yet?

He's been ordered to pay back a sizeable amount............but like that's ever going to happen.
Transfer all his assets to his wife, job jobbed!

The clever people will know if he hides it.

[demographic]

Might be a shorter list if they just list the good parts.

[chutzpah]

If I owned one and got that I wouldn't be that bothered, after all this is what MCN had to say for reliability and build quality:

"At this early stage, it is hard to make any assumption about the reliability of the V4SS, however stunning build quality and attention to detail would suggest problems will be kept to a minimum."

[JackyJoll]

Pretty half-hearted list of Norton defects, if you ask me...

[The Spin Doctor]

If I owned one and got that I wouldn't be that bothered, after all this is what MCN had to say for reliability and build quality:

"At this early stage, it is hard to make any assumption about the reliability of the V4SS, however stunning build quality and attention to detail would suggest problems will be kept to a minimum."

And of course MCN are known for their objectivity

More to the point, Norton had no funds to pay suppliers, many of whom stopped delivering except for cash. I rather doubt quality control was THEIR priority.

And then there are the well-reported stories about riders turning up to collect their bikes that had been in for service and finding parts had been removed to complete other bikes which were due for delivery to a new customer.

[Supermofo]

If I owned one and got that I wouldn't be that bothered, after all this is what MCN had to say for reliability and build quality:

"At this early stage, it is hard to make any assumption about the reliability of the V4SS, however stunning build quality and attention to detail would suggest problems will be kept to a minimum."

And of course MCN are known for their objectivity

More to the point, Norton had no funds to pay suppliers, many of whom stopped delivering except for cash. I rather doubt quality control was THEIR priority.

And then there are the well-reported stories about riders turning up to collect their bikes that had been in for service and finding parts had been removed to complete other bikes which were due for delivery to a new customer.

Yup. Brothers mate's boss's bike was in for a warranty job. He eventually was allowed to pick it up by the administrators when there was about 50% of it left. The rest had been robbed for new bikes

[Mr Moofo]

I've not kept up with the saga, has Garner got away with it all or has he been prosecuted for anything yet?

He's been ordered to pay back a sizeable amount............but like that's ever going to happen.
Transfer all his assets to his wife, job jobbed!

And do you think he could trust his wife ?

[The Spin Doctor]

I've not kept up with the saga, has Garner got away with it all or has he been prosecuted for anything yet?

He's been ordered to pay back a sizeable amount............but like that's ever going to happen.
Transfer all his assets to his wife, job jobbed!

And do you think he could trust his wife ?

Would be beautifully ironic if she asset-stripped him and buggered off

[Potter]

There is still too much spin.

Garner didn't do all that on his own, he was operating above his capabilities for over a decade and he wasn't short of support. I had first hand experience of it when I went to buy one of the limited edition bikes and it was obvious to anyone with any intelligence that it was little more than a scam and several of them (at least) were in on it.

SG didn't get his hands on that pension money on his own, he didn't strip other peoples bikes down on his own and he didn't sell bikes that they couldn't deliver on his own, I could name names because I dealt with some of them and in my opinion they were all in on it. In fact, I never actually spoke to Garner when I was buying a bike, it was key members of his team that tried to take my money knowing full well that they couldn't build it or deliver.

[Mr. Dazzle]

This popped up in my LinkedIn this morning - chance for someone to go and fix some issues!

https://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/compa ... powertrain

[McNab]

New Norton are no longer going to repair them.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/518107/norto ... -solution/

But they'll let you buy a new one off them (PS don't ride the old one)

[Skub]

New Norton are no longer going to repair them.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/518107/norto ... -solution/

But they'll let you buy a new one off them (PS don't ride the old one)

The bikes sound pretty much unfixable from new.

Quoting the new Norton CEO. "I hope you will understand that our view of the likely best solution has changed over time as more material defects were identified".