If I was being pulled over by coppers...

[Taipan]

But when rappers are your role models...

Get rich or die tryin'?

Looks like Daunte got the latter end of the deal.

Aye. Its the lack of recognition for the middle ground that bothers me.

[gremlin]

But when rappers are your role models...

Get rich or die tryin'?

Looks like Daunte got the latter end of the deal.

Aye. Its the lack of recognition for the middle ground that bothers me.

The "Obtain middle-class affluence or suffer a mildly debilitating injury" lot?

[Mussels]

The copper in the OP is now going to court for manslaughter. So now police as well as not being the highest paid profession and having dangerous work will now get you thrown in prison for an admittedly very stupid mistake at work. I can see it becoming an unpopular vocation pretty quick.

[Saga Lout]

The copper in the OP is now going to court for manslaughter. So now police as well as not being the highest paid profession and having dangerous work will now get you thrown in prison for an admittedly very stupid mistake at work. I can see it becoming an unpopular vocation pretty quick.

Anybody who makes a very stupid mistake that kills somebody faces the possibility of a manslaughter charge.

[demographic]

The copper in the OP is now going to court for manslaughter. So now police as well as not being the highest paid profession and having dangerous work will now get you thrown in prison for an admittedly very stupid mistake at work. I can see it becoming an unpopular vocation pretty quick.

Anybody who makes a very stupid mistake that kills somebody faces the possibility of a manslaughter charge.

That^.
The police can't be seen to be above the law.

[Horse]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2C02RK

"At least 18 officers have made such errors in the past two decades, sometimes with deadly outcomes, according to data collected by John Peters, a former police officer who served as an expert witness in a prominent “weapon confusion” case involving a 2009 fatal shooting in California."

[moth]

Easy mistake to make. It's obvious that the object on the left is a Taser. NO! The object on the right.

Oh, he's bleeding.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56734989

[Taipan]

Easy mistake to make. It's obvious that the object on the left is a Taser. NO! The object on the right.

Oh, he's bleeding.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56734989

Dealing with a known crim with firearm charges to his name and he's wriggling about in front of you, could you really tell the difference between hand grips and triggers in the heat of the moment? Maybe SOP should change with a taser being front drawn and the firearm remain side drawn?

[MrLongbeard]

Dealing with a known crim with firearm charges to his name and he's wriggling about in front of you,

They didn't know that at the time, only that he was already wanted.

[Bigyin]

Iirc (I read the story early this morning) the cop had been on the force for 26 years or so. You'd like to think that with that sort of experience she'd know what weapon she had in her hand ffs.

Of course, it brings into question the shape and feel of a tazer - if it is too much like a handgun then there's an obvious issue. But I ceased to be amazed/shocked by the way Americans behave around guns a long time ago. I'm just glad we gave the idiots independence.

I was trained in both and carried both ....one is nothing like the other, Normal firearm is heavier made of metal (mostly), grip feels different, its black, magazine is in the handle with the weight of the rounds added, safety catch is left side to flick down with thumb. Taser is made of plastic, lighter, bright yellow, cartridge at the front, safety catch is reachable on both sides. If all else fails when held out in front of you in the aim position the Taser is bright Yellow which is the major clue

Firearm should be carried in the side thats dominant as its a weapon of last resort and needed immediately. The Taser is a less lethal option so normally carried on the opposite side to reach across for it so in my case Taser on the left, Pistol on the right.

The video shows the pistol held out in an aim position ....then fired

[moth]

Maybe SOP should change with a taser being front drawn and the firearm remain side drawn?

Yes, good point. Click the link, read it

A handgun weighs rather more than a taser too. That's a clue.

[Taipan]

Dealing with a known crim with firearm charges to his name and he's wriggling about in front of you,

They didn't know that at the time, only that he was already wanted.

What, like, this man is wanted but we can't tell you what for as its a secret?

[Bigyin]

Maybe SOP should change with a taser being front drawn and the firearm remain side drawn?

Yes, good point. Click the link, read it

A handgun weighs rather more than a taser too. That's a clue.

I made my post in reply to yambo and then saw yours about the link and clicked on it ...... seems like i knew what i was doing after all

[moth]

Dealing with a known crim with firearm charges to his name and he's wriggling about in front of you,

They didn't know that at the time, only that he was already wanted.

What, like, this man is wanted but we can't tell you what for as its a secret?

The warrant was for non-attendance at (virtual) court. I very much doubt the coppers actually checked what the charges that landed him in court were.

[Bigyin]

Just watched the video again and she is clearly heard to say twice "I'll Tase you", "I'll Tase you", then followed by " Taser Taser Taser" which is the warning to other officers that a taser is about to be fired in case they are in contact with the suspect ....followed by the bang of the pistol and then its Bleeped out which i will assume is "oh fuck"

She fucked up, probably through adrenaline and an element of fear/panic but listening to the the audio she went through the correct drills for a taser shot but had a live pistol in her hand at the time

[DEADPOOL]

Couple of teenage girls have a great scam going. Order an Uber then taze the driver and nick his car. last time they did it, they ended up killing him; crushed by his own car.

Probably won't hear too much about it. The ethnicity of the offenders does not fit the media narrative.

[Horse]

Maybe SOP should change with a taser being front drawn and the firearm remain side drawn?

See the article I linked, it covers this.

[Horse]

More:

https://www.forcescience.org/2021/04/un ... confusion/

[MrLongbeard]

[irie]

Couple of teenage girls have a great scam going. Order an Uber then taze the driver and nick his car. last time they did it, they ended up killing him; crushed by his own car.

Probably won't hear too much about it. The ethnicity of the offenders does not fit the media narrative.

Does being teenage girls qualify as 'belonging to an ethnicity'? Wow, you learn something every day.