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Interesting how once he had the 'perfect' bullseye, the prospect of 'failure' (to match it or repeat it) loomed large.
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slowsider wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:44 pm Interesting how once he had the 'perfect' bullseye, the prospect of 'failure' (to match it or repeat it) loomed large.
If you're at the peak, there are only two options: maintain or deteriorate. Can perfection be maintained?

For example, although I've not done a great deal of it, I have never missed when clay pigeon shooting, I have a 100% hit record.

Ok, the truth is that I had one go with a double-barrelled shotgun, hit both clays. Gun owner asked whether I'd like another go? I said no, as I would most likely miss, so I could retain that 100% score ;)
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Forty years ago in Osterley Park I had a sprint race with my brother and my Dad. I won. My Dad said don't ever race us again as then you can always say "The last time we had a race I won".

The record still stands. My Mum took the photo. It's been scanned and screenshoted so lacks quality.
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Trinity765 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:14 pmI won, quality.
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I've just got home and watched the video, that's Mark Rober of Squirrel Ninja Wars and Glitter Bomb fame (I'm a subscriber) :thumbup:
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Horse wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:58 pm
slowsider wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:44 pm Interesting how once he had the 'perfect' bullseye, the prospect of 'failure' (to match it or repeat it) loomed large.
If you're at the peak, there are only two options: maintain or deteriorate. Can perfection be maintained?

For example, although I've not done a great deal of it, I have never missed when clay pigeon shooting, I have a 100% hit record.

Ok, the truth is that I had one go with a double-barrelled shotgun, hit both clays. Gun owner asked whether I'd like another go? I said no, as I would most likely miss, so I could retain that 100% score ;)
Not quite 'peak' then. :hmmm:
Are you offering the video for those who don't have beginners luck? :)
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Trinity765 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:14 pm Forty years ago in Osterley Park I had a sprint race with my brother and my Dad. I won. My Dad said don't ever race us again as then you can always say "The last time we had a race I won".

The record still stands. My Mum took the photo. It's been scanned and screenshoted so lacks quality.
He didn't want to be beaten by a gurl again, and you fell for it :mrgreen:
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slowsider wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:27 pm
Horse wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:58 pm I had one go with a double-barrelled shotgun, hit both clays. Gun owner asked whether I'd like another go? I said no, as I would most likely miss, so I could retain that 100% score ;)
... beginners luck? :)
If I'd said that I missed both clays, you could quite fairly have said 'no skill' etc.

But I hit both. No recognition of skill or talent, instead you attribute it to 'luck'. How unfair and judgemental.

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Horse wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:11 am
slowsider wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:27 pm
Horse wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:58 pm I had one go with a double-barrelled shotgun, hit both clays. Gun owner asked whether I'd like another go? I said no, as I would most likely miss, so I could retain that 100% score ;)
... beginners luck? :)
If I'd said that I missed both clays, you could quite fairly have said 'no skill' etc.

But I hit both. No recognition of skill or talent, instead you attribute it to 'luck'. How unfair and judgemental.

:D
Statistically you had a 1 in 2 chance of hitting it, but you assessed that you would 'most likely' miss - worse than chance. Who am I to disagree with your own recognition of your skill and talent ? :dunno: :1
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slowsider wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:45 am Statistically you had a 1 in 2 chance of hitting it, but you assessed that you would 'most likely' miss - worse than chance. Who am I to disagree with your own recognition of your skill and talent ? :dunno: :1
Not really '1 in 2' if you consider the size of the sky, the shot pattern, and the size of the clay.

More 1 'hit' and many, many, more 'miss' opportunities.
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Horse wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:10 am
slowsider wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:45 am Statistically you had a 1 in 2 chance of hitting it, but you assessed that you would 'most likely' miss - worse than chance. Who am I to disagree with your own recognition of your skill and talent ? :dunno: :1
Not really '1 in 2' if you consider the size of the sky, the shot pattern, and the size of the clay.

More 1 'hit' and many, many, more 'miss' opportunities.
You can reduce some of those opportunities by facing in the right direction :mrgreen:
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slowsider wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:54 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:10 am
slowsider wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:45 am Statistically you had a 1 in 2 chance of hitting it
Not really '1 in 2' if you consider the size of the sky, the shot pattern, and the size of the clay.

More 1 'hit' and many, many, more 'miss' opportunities.
You can reduce some of those opportunities ...
Go on then, explain how to reduce (ie improve) the opportunities for each shot from a 1 in 2 chance while retaining the 'miss' option.

Perhaps you meant an either/or outcome? I'm not sure that even well-intentioned amateur shots towards the clays would have resulted in a 50% hit rate in the same 'statistical' way that a series of coin tosses should each have a 1 in 2 chance of each being head or tail.
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