Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

[DEADPOOL]

..and now "the EU" are saying Germany is suffering from "the deadly UK virus".

No less a person than Angela Merkel.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/g ... 25662.html

“We basically have a new pandemic,” Mrs Merkel told reporters in Berlin in the early hours.
“Essentially we have a new virus, obviously of the same type but with completely different characteristics,” she added.
“Significantly more deadly, significantly more infectious (and) infectious for longer.”

Have they not done enough damage yet with this incessant political bollocks? How many more EU member citizens have to die at the hands of their political elite just so that the EU can blame the UK for everything?

This is madness. It is a Chinese virus, now apparently there is some evidence it did in fact originate from the Wuhan virus lab. This attempt by China apologists to rename the various strains based on the first country to identify it I thought had been vetoed...

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..and now "the EU" are saying Germany is suffering from "the deadly UK virus".

No less a person than Angela Merkel.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/g ... 25662.html

“We basically have a new pandemic,” Mrs Merkel told reporters in Berlin in the early hours.
“Essentially we have a new virus, obviously of the same type but with completely different characteristics,” she added.
“Significantly more deadly, significantly more infectious (and) infectious for longer.”

Have they not done enough damage yet with this incessant political bollocks? How many more EU member citizens have to die at the hands of their political elite just so that the EU can blame the UK for everything?

This is madness. It is a Chinese virus, now apparently there is some evidence it did in fact originate from the Wuhan virus lab. This attempt by China apologists to rename the various strains based on the first country to identify it I thought had been vetoed...

It is very unlikely that there will ever be a "German" variant because Germany has relatively little genomic sequencing capacity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/in-the- ... -variants/

It’s “no coincidence” that concerning variants were first identified in South Africa and the U.K., given the two countries’ sequencing coverage, said Ravindra Gupta, professor of clinical microbiology at the University of Cambridge. “That’s a real lesson for the rest of the world,” he said.

But the EU has now, moving at it's trademark glacial speed, decided that it needs to know what's going on in its own back yard. A year too late.

The EU is now waking up to the problem. The Commission’s newly launched HERA Incubator is meant to be one step toward solving the issue by developing tests for the new variants, pumping at least €75 million into supporting member countries with genomic sequencing. It’s also allocating €150 million towards research and data exchange on the variants.

How many more EU member citizens have to die at the hands of their political elite

Unfortunately, we're going to find out.

[Hoonercat]

..and now "the EU" are saying Germany is suffering from "the deadly UK virus".

No less a person than Angela Merkel.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/g ... 25662.html

“We basically have a new pandemic,” Mrs Merkel told reporters in Berlin in the early hours.
“Essentially we have a new virus, obviously of the same type but with completely different characteristics,” she added.
“Significantly more deadly, significantly more infectious (and) infectious for longer.”

Have they not done enough damage yet with this incessant political bollocks? How many more EU member citizens have to die at the hands of their political elite just so that the EU can blame the UK for everything?

This is madness. It is a Chinese virus, now apparently there is some evidence it did in fact originate from the Wuhan virus lab. This attempt by China apologists to rename the various strains based on the first country to identify it I thought had been vetoed...

How strange. When you search for the phrase "the deadly UK virus" in that article, it doesn't exist, yet you appear to have quoted someone and posted a link.

[Horse]

Perhaps she said in German?

[DEADPOOL]

How strange. When you search for the phrase "the deadly UK virus" in that article, it doesn't exist, yet you appear to have quoted someone and posted a link.

Nothing strange about you leaping to the defence of these extraordinary political shenanigans.

That is my quote you refer to or précis if you prefer, I then link to the published article and the actual statement from Angela Merkel.

Where she says, and I quote: "the" "deadly" "virus" while referring to a variant discovered in the UK.

You are clutching at straws trying to defend your beloved EU. They are acting like cunts and that is plain to see to those who would only look.

[DefTrap]

"China virus", "UK virus", "Brazil virus", "South Africa virus" are all commonly used terms across the media and by politicians alike. It's up to you whether you choose to use either of them in a derogatory way or whether you choose to be incensed when they're used

I'm guessing "B117", B1.351", "P1" aren't quite as catchy.
Even "SARS-CoV-2" hasn't really been used from the outset.

Not that this has much to do with the AZ rollout - it's just the usual suspects EU bashing - why not use your powers of detection to investigate misrepresentation in the South African or Brazilian press?

[Hoonercat]

..and now "the EU" are saying Germany is suffering from "the deadly UK virus".

No less a person than Angela Merkel.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/g ... 25662.html

“We basically have a new pandemic,” Mrs Merkel told reporters in Berlin in the early hours.
“Essentially we have a new virus, obviously of the same type but with completely different characteristics,” she added.
“Significantly more deadly, significantly more infectious (and) infectious for longer.”

Have they not done enough damage yet with this incessant political bollocks? How many more EU member citizens have to die at the hands of their political elite just so that the EU can blame the UK for everything?

This is madness. It is a Chinese virus, now apparently there is some evidence it did in fact originate from the Wuhan virus lab. This attempt by China apologists to rename the various strains based on the first country to identify it I thought had been vetoed...

How strange. When you search for the phrase "the deadly UK virus" in that article, it doesn't exist, yet you appear to have quoted someone and posted a link.

How strange. When you search for the phrase "the deadly UK virus" in that article, it doesn't exist, yet you appear to have quoted someone and posted a link.

Nothing strange about you leaping to the defence of these extraordinary political shenanigans.

That is my quote you refer to or précis if you prefer, I then link to the published article and the actual statement from Angela Merkel.

Where she says, and I quote: "the" "deadly" "virus" while referring to a variant discovered in the UK.

You are clutching at straws trying to defend your beloved EU. They are acting like cunts and that is plain to see to those who would only look.

So Merkel made no mention of it being the UK virus, they were your words which you decided for some reason to put in quotes. You know why they're called quotes, right?
The UK variant (oops I said the naughty words) has been in Europe for some time now, maybe you'd prefer her not to mention it at all so's not to upset you?

[Gedge]

..and now "the EU" are saying Germany is suffering from "the deadly UK virus".

No less a person than Angela Merkel.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/g ... 25662.html

“We basically have a new pandemic,” Mrs Merkel told reporters in Berlin in the early hours.
“Essentially we have a new virus, obviously of the same type but with completely different characteristics,” she added.
“Significantly more deadly, significantly more infectious (and) infectious for longer.”

Have they not done enough damage yet with this incessant political bollocks? How many more EU member citizens have to die at the hands of their political elite just so that the EU can blame the UK for everything?

This is madness. It is a Chinese virus, now apparently there is some evidence it did in fact originate from the Wuhan virus lab. This attempt by China apologists to rename the various strains based on the first country to identify it I thought had been vetoed...

How strange. When you search for the phrase "the deadly UK virus" in that article, it doesn't exist, yet you appear to have quoted someone and posted a link.

How strange. When you search for the phrase "the deadly UK virus" in that article, it doesn't exist, yet you appear to have quoted someone and posted a link.

Nothing strange about you leaping to the defence of these extraordinary political shenanigans.

That is my quote you refer to or précis if you prefer, I then link to the published article and the actual statement from Angela Merkel.

Where she says, and I quote: "the" "deadly" "virus" while referring to a variant discovered in the UK.

You are clutching at straws trying to defend your beloved EU. They are acting like cunts and that is plain to see to those who would only look.

So Merkel made no mention of it being the UK virus, they were your words which you decided for some reason to put in quotes. You know why they're called quotes, right?
The UK variant (oops I said the naughty words) has been in Europe for some time now, maybe you'd prefer her not to mention it at all so's not to upset you?

She did that back in January ..

In Germany, Chancellor Merkel was quoted this week issuing the following warning at a gathering of political colleagues: “If we don’t manage to stop this British virus, then we will have 10 times the number of cases by Easter.”

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“If we don’t manage to stop this British virus, then we will have 10 times the number of cases by Easter.”

Just let them try to invade our British virus!

[Horse]

She did that back in January ..
“If we don’t manage to stop this British virus, then we will have 10 times the number of cases by Easter.”

The quote continued:

We need eight to 10 more weeks of tough measures

Did they, and did it work? (10 weeks up yesterday)

[DEADPOOL]

So Merkel made no mention of it being the UK virus, they were your words which you decided for some reason to put in quotes. You know why they're called quotes, right?
The UK variant (oops I said the naughty words) has been in Europe for some time now, maybe you'd prefer her not to mention it at all so's not to upset you?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

She has called it the British virus, deliberately, and this is yet more anti-British propaganda being pumped out incessantly by the EU.

If you can't see that or are determined to whine about every jot and tittle instead of considering the whole picture, there is nothing that will persuade you.

[Noggin]

So Merkel made no mention of it being the UK virus, they were your words which you decided for some reason to put in quotes. You know why they're called quotes, right?
The UK variant (oops I said the naughty words) has been in Europe for some time now, maybe you'd prefer her not to mention it at all so's not to upset you?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

She has called it the British virus, deliberately, and this is yet more anti-British propaganda being pumped out incessantly by the EU.

If you can't see that or are determined to whine about every jot and tittle instead of considering the whole picture, there is nothing that will persuade you.

FFS - it's the British variant the same as there is a SA variant and a Brazilian variant. Is it the fact that she used virus instead of variant that you are pissy about or just that she mentions that there is a British variant of the virus??

[Hoonercat]

So Merkel made no mention of it being the UK virus, they were your words which you decided for some reason to put in quotes. You know why they're called quotes, right?
The UK variant (oops I said the naughty words) has been in Europe for some time now, maybe you'd prefer her not to mention it at all so's not to upset you?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

She has called it the British virus, deliberately, and this is yet more anti-British propaganda being pumped out incessantly by the EU.

If you can't see that or are determined to whine about every jot and tittle instead of considering the whole picture, there is nothing that will persuade you.

It was originally called the Kent variant, and being a man of Kent I was sooooo not upset at those London hacks trying to blame Kent for everything. Boo-fucking-hoo.
Prof Sharon Peacock, head of the UK's genetic surveillance programme, predicted back in February that the UK variant was going to "sweep the world". She might have a Twitter account, if you want to unload some more of that hate.

[gremlin]

Well, more than 24 hours have passed since my AZ jab and I don't have the shivering heeby-jeebies that everybody predicted I would have. Some wags are suggesting that this as an over-50 my immune system isn't fighting hard enough, unlike the youngsters who have the jab and get a bit wheezy.

[irie]

Not that this has much to do with the AZ rollout - it's just the usual suspects EU bashing ...

It's the EU's fuckup so exactly who, other than the EU, do you believe deserves a "bashing"?

ISTM that the objective of the EU's campaign against AstraZeneca is to indirectly apply sufficient pressure to force the British government to release AstraZeneca from its contracts for producing vaccines in British plants for the sole supply to the UK so that vaccines can be diverted to the EU. Good luck with that.

[DefTrap]

It's the EU's fuckup so exactly who, other than the EU, do you believe deserves a "bashing"?
.

In this thread? Nobody really.

Who exactly are you bashing anyway? The EU as a whole? Just the Germans? Just the French? The governments or their citizens?

Seems a bit of a scattergun approach. It's almost as if your motive is hatred of furriners, but no it can't be that.

Anyway back to the, something more like, the plot ...
My missus was talking to some folk in the queue outside the docs. Monsieur#Uno aged over 70 had never had a vaccine in his life and wasn't about to start now. Monsieur#Zwei aged under 40 considered the vaccine testing to be compromised by hurried testing, wasn't going to fall for that one. Bloody government.
These are the sorts of people that have to be carefully managed into compliance.

Boris is lucky that the UK population have sleepwalked into future vaccine-related side effects.

[Horse]

Boris is lucky that the UK population have limped because of vaccine-related thrombosis

ftfy

[Gedge]

She did that back in January ..
“If we don’t manage to stop this British virus, then we will have 10 times the number of cases by Easter.”

The quote continued:

We need eight to 10 more weeks of tough measures

Did they, and did it work? (10 weeks up yesterday)

No idea I was simply addressing the fact that she HAD publicly referred to it as the ‘British virus’ ..

[irie]

It's the EU's fuckup so exactly who, other than the EU, do you believe deserves a "bashing"?
.

In this thread? Nobody really.

Who exactly are you bashing anyway? The EU as a whole? Just the Germans? Just the French? The governments or their citizens?

Seems a bit of a scattergun approach. It's almost as if your motive is hatred of furriners, but no it can't be that.

It is the EU Commission's fuckup, but you know that of course.

I have French family, and have dual British/Canadian citizenship. Sorry not to satisfy your prejudices, I'm sure you'll get over it.

[DEADPOOL]

FFS - it's the British variant the same as there is a SA variant and a Brazilian variant. Is it the fact that she used virus instead of variant that you are pissy about or just that she mentions that there is a British variant of the virus??

Indeed and you're quite right but you are taking this comment out of context. The context of the EU blaming the UK for a shortage of vaccines, rubbishing the AZ vaccine to the extent their citizens are fearful of it, then playing silly buggers with some confirmed orders the UK made months before the wheels of the EU had slowly ground to the conclusion they need to do something quickly. In that context I take umbrage at yet more UK bashing.

I may even be being "unfair", I don't care, the EU is a failed project run by failed politicians who voted themselves into power. As soon as people started referring to these variants by the name of the country they were first discovered, it was mooted by the scientific community that this was somewhat inaccurate and misleading.

The real question is not "is it fair to refer to these variants by their country of first discovery" but "why is the world so scared to criticise the CCP?" I seem to recall suggesting they should be CCP death virus mk1, mk2 etc. That's way more accurate...

Australia seem to be the only country who are openly critical of the CCP and they're getting hammered for it. Is that why nobody dares to stand up to China?