£13,000??? Come on, really Specialized

[weeksy]

https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/bikes ... ac13395006

Specialized S-Works Turbo Levo Electric Mountain Bike 2022 White
£13,000.00

[Noggin]

Much as it's lovely and I'm sure it's fab to ride, if I had 13,000 to spend on wheels, there'd be a proper engine attached (not just a battery!!)!!!

I love the idea of an Electric mountain bike, but no way could I justify spending that sort of money on one!!!


(PS - the link is for lights??)

[demographic]

So you buying those lights on Ebay then?

[Couchy]

Compared to their £11500 non ebike it doesn’t look over priced, I’m sure there’s more expensive non ebikes too.

[Mussels]

With assistance to 20mph it isn't an e-bike, their market is probably as an expensive toy or it may just be an attention grabber.

[Couchy]

With assistance to 20mph it isn't an e-bike, their market is probably as an expensive toy or it may just be an attention grabber.

20mph is the euro setting it’ll be 15.5 for UK

[weeksy]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-20 ... hmark.html

Well according to the reviews out, it IS actually both the latest and greatest thing on the planet.

But considering it cost most than my wifes 8 month old Ford Focus, it would have to be amazing.

[MingtheMerciless]

Hope the software patch has fixed the motors nasty habit ion snapping its internal belts.

ahhh motor belt is wider and stiffer in the new motor!

Adds to want pile..........

[Mussels]

With assistance to 20mph it isn't an e-bike, their market is probably as an expensive toy or it may just be an attention grabber.

20mph is the euro setting it’ll be 15.5 for UK

The UK adopted the EU laws a few years back so it's the same but listed as 25kph there. Germany has an odd high power e-bike law but that requires insurance and a helmet.

[Taff]

I've just read the emtb mag review, they're conclusion is that if your riding is fast and very technical then it is superb. If however your riding is slower than 110% or more likely to be on flow trails is not so good and the previous model is better.

https://ebike-mtb.com/en/new-specialize ... tb-review/

[Mr. Dazzle]

Specialized were selling £11k bikes nearly 10 years ago, although TBF that was a fancy McLaren one.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new- ... aren-venge

Making high end bikes is actually really hard! Way harder than I anticipated, the top flight stuff has technology which is easily the equal of F1 - and that's not just marketing speak.

I think the motor in that bike is also roughly twice as powerful as the common Bosch jobbies? 595W plays against 350W. Getting that to be small and light won't be cheap either.

[MingtheMerciless]

I think all the motor manufacturers play a bit fast and loose with their interpretation of the power regs and their power figures. Remember that they should not be more than 250W for GB/EU market.

Having had top end MTB's for many years I liken then to running a WRC car. Strong,light,cheap.......pick two. Wear and tear of tyres and transmission can be horrific if you ride hard or in challenging environmental conditions (ie typical Blighty Autumn and Winter). Most things are built to be light, hence specialised suspension pivot bearings are stupid small and really suffer, requiring at least annual replacement.

Mrs M's Levo when it is working is bloody awesome. It really flies and is supremely capable up and down hill.

[Taff]

Peak power is not really so much of a consideration really, most people tend to ride in the lower power settings, mine is normally in tour mode unless it's a big hill, in which case I may go up to sport and turbo is reserved for when it gets really silly steep. Remember a small contact patch on a loose surface doesn't combine well with huge amounts of power (unless you can keep the throttle pinned)

I'm sure those that are willing to spend this sort of money are going to love the bike in the same way as the person that buys the top of the range Ducati superbike loves it. The bike may only get ridden to a fraction of it's capability but who cares, it's a great piece of engineering and someone is happy to own it

[Mr Moofo]

E- bikes are just for fat blokes and old people who smell of wee.
I guess is you have the Aston, the second home in the Algarve, and you are on your third wife, then you may as well spunk up 13k on an e bike.
I guess you will also have to factor in 25 for someone to ride it for you ....

[cheb]

Does having a maximum power limit mean that the motor actually produces that power? I'm thinking of BHP figures quoted for motorcycles, what the manufacturers claimed and what an out of the showroom bike produced being two different figures.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Electric motors are generally going to be alot closer to 'spec' than piston engines just cause they're so much simpler. They're also not effected by things like air temperature or fuel quality etc.

[Couchy]

Peak power is not really so much of a consideration really, most people tend to ride in the lower power settings, mine is normally in tour mode unless it's a big hill, in which case I may go up to sport and turbo is reserved for when it gets really silly steep. Remember a small contact patch on a loose surface doesn't combine well with huge amounts of power (unless you can keep the throttle pinned)

I'm sure those that are willing to spend this sort of money are going to love the bike in the same way as the person that buys the top of the range Ducati superbike loves it. The bike may only get ridden to a fraction of it's capability but who cares, it's a great piece of engineering and someone is happy to own it

Everyone I know runs in turbo mode and derestricted as it makes the trails real exciting

[Mr Moofo]

Peak power is not really so much of a consideration really, most people tend to ride in the lower power settings, mine is normally in tour mode unless it's a big hill, in which case I may go up to sport and turbo is reserved for when it gets really silly steep. Remember a small contact patch on a loose surface doesn't combine well with huge amounts of power (unless you can keep the throttle pinned)

I'm sure those that are willing to spend this sort of money are going to love the bike in the same way as the person that buys the top of the range Ducati superbike loves it. The bike may only get ridden to a fraction of it's capability but who cares, it's a great piece of engineering and someone is happy to own it

Everyone I know runs in turbo mode and derestricted as it makes the trails real exciting

And will bring the inevitable ban and registration in quicker. TBH I have no issue with e-bike, it gets folks out who wouldn't normally ride. I do have an issue with e-bikes when they push pass me on up hill climbs at above restriction speeds. Which is becoming more and more common.

[weeksy]

I think i must be really lucky where i ride. I saw a woman/bloke on Ebikes last weekend, who were both about 75 and cruising along the road for cake, other than that, i don't think i've ever seen an ebike out in the trails. For me, that side of things is a complete non-issue.

[Mr Moofo]

I think i must be really lucky where i ride. I saw a woman/bloke on Ebikes last weekend, who were both about 75 and cruising along the road for cake, other than that, i don't think i've ever seen an ebike out in the trails. For me, that side of things is a complete non-issue.

Lockdown has meant the Downs becoming a playground. Which is fair enough - it should be used by all, and not just me. There has been a lot of travelling into the area to use the various trails. I know the North Downs have similar issues.
But there seem to be an ever increasing number ( it must be 40% of what I see) of e-bike. The issues that come with that is no real understanding of right of ways, etiquette on trails ( giving way to those coming up etc), wearing of helmets (or any safety gear: But it is a free world), and lastly an increasing number of expensive and derestricted e-bikes hooning around paths fully of walkers, dogs , kids, and clockwork bike users.
I am not a kill joy - I can hit 60kph coming down stuff - but stuff going up hill at 30kph + is going to end up killing / injuring people ...