Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

[DefTrap]

Hundreds of times, and more likely thousands of times, more people than above will die as a result of these "political" decisions.

Saw an epidemiological calculation that each day delay in vaccination would likely result in an additional ~15 deaths per 100,000 un-vaccinated people. Doesn't sound much until you do a bit of elementary arithmetic.

Don't forget the similar calculations to estimate deaths from 'delay in lockdown' and 'impact of "eat out to help out" policy' and 'creating white elephant Nightingale hospitals with no staff'. I think they were called 'common sense calculations'.

[Mussels]

I see the EU is complaining too many vaccines are leaving the EU whilst not enough are arriving.
If they used the vaccines they have I might have more sympathy.

[irie]

I see the EU is complaining too many vaccines are leaving the EU whilst not enough are arriving.
If they used the vaccines they have I might have more sympathy.

Desperately trying to find a scapegoat for their own screwups.

From 10 days ago:

https://www.politico.eu/article/coronav ... e-numbers/

At the same time, some countries aren't using all the Oxford/AstraZeneca doses they do have. The most recent data available show the rate of administration — the doses used in each EU country versus the doses received — differs significantly by manufacturer. In Belgium, Hungary, the Netherlands and Slovenia, less than one-third of Oxford/AstraZeneca doses that were delivered have been administered up until March 7.

In Germany, where some people have reportedly turned down the offer to get vaccinated with the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab after the country's scientists raised concern over its efficacy in older populations, the administration rate for this vaccine is only slightly higher, with less than half of the AstraZeneca doses having been used.

These fools are a laughing stock in Europe, nobody believes them.

[Hoonercat]

Jesus wept, it's like reading an opinion piece from the love child of Victor Meldrew and the Grim Reaper.

[DEADPOOL]

These fools are a laughing stock in Europe, nobody believes them.

Oh I dunno, @Hoonercat seems to have swallowed it whole. He tells me it's a conspiracy...

[irie]

These fools are a laughing stock in Europe, nobody believes them.

Oh I dunno, @Hoonercat seems to have swallowed it whole. He tells me it's a conspiracy...

Reminds me of "The Marching Morons" by Kornbluth.

I believe that there are ~7.5m unused AstraZeneca vaccine doses in the EU.

Go figure.

Edit: add 7.5m

[exportman]

I seem to recall the EU wrer complaining we did not let them have enough of the Vaccine in the first place.

DVTs. How many women take the contraceptive pill voluntarily in the full knowledge of DVTs being a recognised risk?

[Docca]

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[irie]

EMA: the incidence of blood clots after vaccination is lower than one would expect in the general population. Vaccination likely reduces the risk of thrombotic events overall.

... Aifa’s chief, Nicola Magrini, told La Repubblica that its decision was a “political one”, while adding that the vaccine was “safe” and the benefit-to-risk ratio “widely positive”. He said eight people had died and four more suffered severe side-effects after receiving the vaccine in Italy.[/i]

Hundreds of times, and more likely thousands of times, more people than above will die as a result of these "political" decisions.

Saw an epidemiological calculation that each day delay in vaccination would likely result in an additional ~15 deaths per 100,000 un-vaccinated people. Doesn't sound much until you do a bit of elementary arithmetic.

Anyone want to calculate how many lives these politics have cost? No, thought not.

Edit: insert earlier post.

[Asian Boss]

It's ok, it's ok, it's ok .... no it's not!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-peo ... r-12249755

Symptoms include headache, blurred vision, fainting, gigantism and loss of consciousness.

Experts say the little people should still attend their vaccine appointments as the benefits "far outweigh" the side effects.

[irie]

It's ok, it's ok, it's ok .... no it's not!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-peo ... r-12249755

Symptoms include headache, blurred vision, fainting, gigantism and loss of consciousness.

Experts say the little people should still attend their vaccine appointments as the benefits "far outweigh" the side effects.

No, those are not vaccination related symptoms.

That advice applies to anyone with those symptoms, vaccinated or not.

hth

[Asian Boss]

It's ok, it's ok, it's ok .... no it's not!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-peo ... r-12249755

Symptoms include headache, blurred vision, fainting, gigantism and loss of consciousness.

Experts say the little people should still attend their vaccine appointments as the benefits "far outweigh" the side effects.

No, those are not vaccination related symptoms.

That advice applies to anyone with those symptoms, vaccinated or not.

hth

People who experience a headache for more than four days after having the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab should seek medical attention, the UK's medicines regulator has said.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said its latest advice was a "precautionary measure" following a number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in conjunction with lowered platelets after vaccination.

[irie]

It's ok, it's ok, it's ok .... no it's not!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-peo ... r-12249755

Symptoms include headache, blurred vision, fainting, gigantism and loss of consciousness.

Experts say the little people should still attend their vaccine appointments as the benefits "far outweigh" the side effects.

No, those are not vaccination related symptoms.

That advice applies to anyone with those symptoms, vaccinated or not.

hth

People who experience a headache for more than four days after having the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab should seek medical attention, the UK's medicines regulator has said.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said its latest advice was a "precautionary measure" following a number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in conjunction with lowered platelets after vaccination.

Posted today, Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:12 pm in this thread. I watched the EMA press conference, evidently you did not.

EMA: the incidence of blood clots after vaccination is lower than one would expect in the general population. Vaccination likely reduces the risk of thrombotic events overall.

Move your fingers under the words.

[Asian Boss]

No, those are not vaccination related symptoms.

That advice applies to anyone with those symptoms, vaccinated or not.

hth

People who experience a headache for more than four days after having the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab should seek medical attention, the UK's medicines regulator has said.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said its latest advice was a "precautionary measure" following a number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in conjunction with lowered platelets after vaccination.

Posted today, Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:12 pm in this thread.

EMA: the incidence of blood clots after vaccination is lower than one would expect in the general population. Vaccination likely reduces the risk of thrombotic events overall.

Move your fingers under the words.

What you said seems to be at odds with what the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said.

[irie]

People who experience a headache for more than four days after having the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab should seek medical attention, the UK's medicines regulator has said.

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said its latest advice was a "precautionary measure" following a number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in conjunction with lowered platelets after vaccination.

Posted today, Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:12 pm in this thread.

EMA: the incidence of blood clots after vaccination is lower than one would expect in the general population. Vaccination likely reduces the risk of thrombotic events overall.

Move your fingers under the words.

What you said seems to be at odds with what the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said.

It is what Dr Sabine Strauss of the EMA said at 16.10 today. It likely reduces the risk of thrombotic events because it prevents a disease which itself causes thrombotic events.

Edit: add context

[Asian Boss]

Posted today, Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:12 pm in this thread.



Move your fingers under the words.

What you said seems to be at odds with what the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said.

It is what Dr Sabine Strauss of the EMA said today.

Relayed via Chinese whispers. By some old layman on the internet. Who likes the sound of his own voice and talking big.

[irie]

Not interested in your ignorant bait.

[Yambo]

Seriously, if someone has a headache for 4 days and doesn't seek medical attention they're just a little bit fuckin' stupid I think.

Regardless of any fuckin' vaccination.

[weeksy]

Seriously, if someone has a headache for 4 days and doesn't seek medical attention they're just a little bit fuckin' stupid I think.

Regardless of any fuckin' vaccination.

16 years Mrs Weeksy has had a headache, every night about 9pm.

[Skub]

Seriously, if someone has a headache for 4 days and doesn't seek medical attention they're just a little bit fuckin' stupid I think.

Regardless of any fuckin' vaccination.

16 years Mrs Weeksy has had a headache, every night about 9pm.

You are in so much trouble if she reads that.