The Oulton Assassin

[KungFooBob]

I'm on a couple of race/trackday related friendface groups and this is doing the rounds.

Apparently she's a regular trackdayer and shows no remorse/apologies for her actions.

Anyone know the full story?

[weeksy]

Ooooft. I'd like to know more, but, yeah, that was bloody awful.

[KungFooBob]

I think she's called welyn evelina, rides a black GSXR with pink decals, ever seen her?

[weeksy]

Nope, not a name or indeed a bike I'm aware of.

[DefTrap]

The other rider not badly done in hopefully?

[KungFooBob]

It's obviously not a recent incident, but the video seems to have just started doing the rounds. I'm trying to read all the comments. It was apparently the novice group and the fella was on his 2nd trackday. Bike written off and bloke all healed after a trip to hospital.

Looks like a case of a quick rider being in totally the wrong group.

[Dodgy69]

Arr...the disappearing gap.

Looking again, she does come away from white line .

[Noggin]

Fucking hell

[Skub]

If it was the novice group I can't see that she needed to do that,it wasn't a race.

[Beancounter]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

[weeksy]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

It doesn't. There's no recompense

[Couchy]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

It’s tough shit tbh. I’m sure with a good enough lawyer the downed rider would be able to make a claim. Tbh Trackdays need a claim or two to stop folk riding like dickheads as organisers really don’t bother these days.

[Yorick]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

The disclaimers you sign at a trackday are worth fuck all.
A good lawyer will rip them apart.

FE made us instructors sign one. I sent it to a solicitor pal. He laughed.

[Beancounter]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

It’s tough shit tbh. I’m sure with a good enough lawyer the downed rider would be able to make a claim. Tbh Trackdays need a claim or two to stop folk riding like dickheads as organisers really don’t bother these days.

My first track day was at Rockingham back in 2002. It was a shit show. The novice group was half-filled with amateur racers “buying track time to learn the circuit”**. Every session in the morning was stopped because of crashes. Organiser did nothing. We left at lunchtime.

** That was the rumour going around the pit garages, no idea how true it was.

(Something’s telling me it was a novice only track day but I can’t be sure.)

[Couchy]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

The disclaimers you sign at a trackday are worth fuck all.
A good lawyer will rip them apart.

FE made us instructors sign one. I sent it to a solicitor pal. He laughed.

Pretty much how it would be, I’m sure if the one knocked off here decided to go for a claim it could be easily proven the rider who hit them wasn’t riding within the rules. Surprised it hasn’t been done, maybe it isn’t that easy and it would probably end Trackdays

[Tarmacsurfer]

The video keeps resurfacing on Trackday Addicts but is pulled each time.
Rightly so tbh, it started as a laugh but turned into a witch-hunt and when they found her you could argue bullying/ harassment.
Yeah she f#cked up. Badly. But a line needs to be drawn. I think the mods saw the line was crossed.

[MingtheMerciless]

That was awful. I’m no track day expert but the overtaking rider was clearly too fast for the group and too fast for they’re skill set.

[Noggin]

So how does an incident like that get worked out? Maybe I’m wrong but the rider who was taken out looks pretty much blameless to me but is no doubt massively out of pocket. Happy to be educated/corrected.

The disclaimers you sign at a trackday are worth fuck all.
A good lawyer will rip them apart.

FE made us instructors sign one. I sent it to a solicitor pal. He laughed.

Pretty much how it would be, I’m sure if the one knocked off here decided to go for a claim it could be easily proven the rider who hit them wasn’t riding within the rules. Surprised it hasn’t been done, maybe it isn’t that easy and it would probably end Trackdays

I doubt it would end track days. It might make the organisers say in small words very loudly that if you ride like a c*nt and cause an incident like the one in the video after the TDO have requested everyone ride within certain rules (not the right word, but can't think of it right now), then as a result, the TDO will not be responsible for a claim where the rider was not adhering to the guidelines/rules

It might make them pull the people out of the wrong groups faster/more often as there are often the wrong people in lower groups; and might also make riders not go or not go mad on track.

But I don't see how the TDO can be held responsible as there are clear guidelines/rules laid down at every briefing - and that move she pulled was well out of spec

The big issue would be proof. In this case someone videoed it. That wouldn't be the case for every incident so then it could get more argy bargy.

EDIT : I know the TDO disclaimer isn't worth the paper etc - but if a customer is riding totally against how the TDO instructed in the briefing, how can the TDO be held responsible??

[Flux]

The disclaimers you sign at a trackday are worth fuck all.
A good lawyer will rip them apart.

FE made us instructors sign one. I sent it to a solicitor pal. He laughed.

Do you remember Paul, 100% bikes TD's? I showed my wife (solicitor) one of their imdemnity forms and she laughed and said "meaningless", I mentioned this to Paul, who said, I know, but please don't tell anyone..

[Couchy]

The disclaimers you sign at a trackday are worth fuck all.
A good lawyer will rip them apart.

FE made us instructors sign one. I sent it to a solicitor pal. He laughed.

Pretty much how it would be, I’m sure if the one knocked off here decided to go for a claim it could be easily proven the rider who hit them wasn’t riding within the rules. Surprised it hasn’t been done, maybe it isn’t that easy and it would probably end Trackdays

I doubt it would end track days. It might make the organisers say in small words very loudly that if you ride like a c*nt and cause an incident like the one in the video after the TDO have requested everyone ride within certain rules (not the right word, but can't think of it right now), then as a result, the TDO will not be responsible for a claim where the rider was not adhering to the guidelines/rules

It might make them pull the people out of the wrong groups faster/more often as there are often the wrong people in lower groups; and might also make riders not go or not go mad on track.

But I don't see how the TDO can be held responsible as there are clear guidelines/rules laid down at every briefing - and that move she pulled was well out of spec

The big issue would be proof. In this case someone videoed it. That wouldn't be the case for every incident so then it could get more argy bargy.

EDIT : I know the TDO disclaimer isn't worth the paper etc - but if a customer is riding totally against how the TDO instructed in the briefing, how can the TDO be held responsible??

I guess in the same way the forestry commission can be sued when kids build mtb jumps on their property and someone gets hurt. The organiser can never be free from blame in law