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bevvo wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:45 am This guy reckons chain lube is bollocks:

Having seen that I'd be inclined to agree with him.

I have a tutoro which I am using up all my old oils in. Over teh years I seem to have acquired a few part full bottles of old engine, fork ATF and gear oil in the shed and these are being recycled through it. Based on his video, once I've used these up i'll stick to gear oil in it from then onwards. :thumbup:
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One for road. One for off road.

Paddock stand. First gear. Spray for 10 seconds. Job done.
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bevvo wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:45 am This guy reckons chain lube is bollocks:

I've often thought similar...the chain is nominally self lubricating and fully sealed so why do you need lube?

Doesn't stop me putting WD40 chain wax on though. :D
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I tend to use Wurth Dry Chain Lube but I use the Silkolene from time to time as dry chains still look a bit wrong, use GT85 to penetrate and shift grit before lubing. With modern chains I think most products work as anti corrosion and assist existing lubrication.
Some years back a chap told me he used marine grease, it would be impervious to moisture but a pain to clean.
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demographic wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:14 pm Oh, as a side note though. I know its not for chains but that Scottoiler 365 bike protection stuff isn't great is it?
Washes off with water? Waste of bloody money more like.
Nope, pretty shite IMO. XCP Rust Blocker is far more effective according to RiDE magazines tests (I'll try to dig them out if anyone's interested). Certainly in my own limited experience, XCP RB gives a very thick covering and does the job well but leaves on orange sticky residue behind which is a PITA to clean off. Took a lot of Bilt Hamber Surflex to remove it and then washing normally with shampoo. (I sprayed the XCP RB all over my engine and on any ally bolts so probably my own worst enemy.)

There is also XCP Clear Coat which is slightly less tacky, comes in an aerosol can and seems to do just as good a job as XCP RC but supposedly easier to clean off. This seems to e very similar to ACF50 but without the pigment.

If I was commuting regularly and only cleaning the bike at the end of Winter I'd probably use the Rust Blocker. Otherwise I think the Clear Coat and ACF do the job just as well but might need re-applying.
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I'm another fan of engine oil as a lube but if I'm using chain lube it'll be Putoline dx11 , not because I think its any better than anything else but it was what my local off road dealer sold and I've found it low fling when used on a road bike.
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inewham wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:46 pm Get this on the cooker when your Mrs goes out :thumbup:
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TBF the Bonnie still has unsealed chain so I'm contemplating what to do on it. Sadly a sealed one is too wide, but theoretically you could go down a size and fit a sealed one, but it means new sprocket sizes too of course and a bit of jiggery pokery to make them sit correctly.

Or I could buy a can of that stuff. :D
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I remember doing that in the 70s in my Da's kitchen and stinking the house out. :lol:
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Skub wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:10 pm I remember doing that in the 70s in my Da's kitchen and stinking the house out. :lol:
Likewise. You didn't dare move it when it was hot, so had to have a suitable hanging point over the cooker, and a re-purposed wire coat hanger through the middle of the chain... :D
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:14 pm
Skub wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:10 pm I remember doing that in the 70s in my Da's kitchen and stinking the house out. :lol:
Likewise. You didn't dare move it when it was hot, so had to have a suitable hanging point over the cooker, and a re-purposed wire coat hanger through the middle of the chain... :D
I used a camping stove in the garage :)
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Yorick wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:15 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:14 pm
Skub wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:10 pm I remember doing that in the 70s in my Da's kitchen and stinking the house out. :lol:
Likewise. You didn't dare move it when it was hot, so had to have a suitable hanging point over the cooker, and a re-purposed wire coat hanger through the middle of the chain... :D
I used a camping stove in the garage :)
That would have been a better option, but I discovered the joys of camping & cooking round about the time I switched to spray on lube.

Doubtless hastened by my mother's nagging...
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mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:26 pm I discovered the joys of camping & cooking round about the time I switched to spray on lube.
That sentence may misconstrued without context. :shock:

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Skub wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:43 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:26 pm I discovered the joys of camping & cooking round about the time I switched to spray on lube.
That sentence may misconstrued without context. :shock:

:lol:
Ooh you are awful... :mrgreen:
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Skub wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:43 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:26 pm I discovered the joys of camping & cooking round about the time I switched to spray on lube.
That sentence may misconstrued without context. :shock:

:lol:
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Yorick wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm
Skub wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:43 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:26 pm I discovered the joys of camping & cooking round about the time I switched to spray on lube.
That sentence may misconstrued without context. :shock:

:lol:
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Skub wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:16 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:14 pm
Skub wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:43 pm

That sentence may misconstrued without context. :shock:

:lol:
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Sloppy seconds. Yuk.
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Tricky wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:09 pm I am of the same mind as Supermofo on the Wurth stuff- I never rated it or understood why so many mags seemed to.
I switched to Solkolene Pro Race , used it for years now on all my bikes and don't buy anything else.
Also comes in diddy little 100ml cans too, which is handy for long tours.

https://www.mandp.co.uk/products/silkol ... 0ml-588463

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Bought some this morning. Must admit, i was slightly disappointed with the chain that came of the ZX6R, although it was likely 11 years old.
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weeksy wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:49 am Bought some this morning. Must admit, i was slightly disappointed with the chain that came of the ZX6R, although it was likely 11 years old.
I didn't say anything but must admit, it didn't look great.
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Supermofo wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:01 am
weeksy wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:49 am Bought some this morning. Must admit, i was slightly disappointed with the chain that came of the ZX6R, although it was likely 11 years old.
I didn't say anything but must admit, it didn't look great.
You're allowed to pull me up on stuff mate :) if it's deserved, it's deserved. But the chain didn't have any tight spots this time last year.... But over winter, i checked and it wasn't right, so it was binned.