Astrazeneca/Oxford vaccine approved

[irie]

It's your call.

My on-the-ground experience flies in the face of what you want to believe.
That's all.

Don't be silly, it has nothing whatsoever to do with what I may or may not want to believe. Ask Olivier Véran, Minister for Solidarity and Health.

Only 273,000 doses of the jab developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University have been administered in France out of 1.7 million received as of end-February, according to health ministry figures*.

* Ministry of Social Affairs and Health
14, Avenue Duquesne,
75350 Paris.

Tel: +33 1 40 56 60 00

Edit: Good luck, or should I say bonne chance.

[DefTrap]

Only 273,000 doses of the jab developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University have been administered in France out of 1.7 million received as of end-February, according to health ministry figures*.

You're hard work today.
It doesn't say anything there about poor take-up. I'm not saying there isn't resistance, there may well be, but if I can't get a booking that says more about supply.

[Yambo]

It doesn't say anything there about poor take-up. I'm not saying there isn't resistance, there may well be, but if I can't get a booking that says more about supply.

Maybe they just don't believe somebody actually wants vaccinated!

[DefTrap]

Maybe they just don't believe somebody actually wants vaccinated!

I'm not saying it isn't a shit system - but I'm going to try standing outside the vacc centre on Thursday with no appointment booked but my arm out. If I can get the jab then it's wins all round.

[irie]

Only 273,000 doses of the jab developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University have been administered in France out of 1.7 million received as of end-February, according to health ministry figures*.

You're hard work today.
It doesn't say anything there about poor take-up. I'm not saying there isn't resistance, there may well be, but if I can't get a booking that says more about supply.

You're hard work today.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/18/why ... 19-vaccine

As you can see, there is plenty of vaccine so that leaves low take up or logistics, or a mixture of both. Either way it's the French governments quasi-responsibility* to deal with it.

* © Emmanuel Macron

Edit: or a mixture of both.

[DefTrap]

or logistics.

You got there.

[irie]

or logistics.

You got there.

If that is the case then good luck with this:

I'm not saying it isn't a shit system - but I'm going to try standing outside the vacc centre on Thursday with no appointment booked but my arm out. If I can get the jab then it's wins all round.

[Hoonercat]

France approves AstraZeneca vaccine for over-65s.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56242617

Will ze Germans follow?

But still not for those over 75.

Those aged over 75 will still be offered either Pfizer or Moderna jabs in a vaccination centre, he [Olivier Véran] added.

In any case, vaccine take up in France is so low that it is unlikely make much difference to anything.

The AZ vaccine wasn't available to French GPs until 4 days ago, and even then it's only available to 50-64-year-old's who have underlying health conditions.
Oh, and this

But now some hospitals in France have decided to slow down their vaccination campaigns in order to avoid having too many staff off sick at the same time, while others are pausing them altogether.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20210225/french ... ick-leave/

[Horse]

Fwiw the carers who look after my mother, and others from the same company, were dropping out en masse (keeping with the theme) from their jabs.

[irie]

From what I've read it sounds like stuff is being stockpiled due to poor logistics as much as anything.

The Eurosceptic news doesn't say that, so it can't be true, or it's not as good a story.

They could bang on about poor logistics first - or poor supply, but they've already done that one - then when that improves they might have an opportunity to bang on about poor take-up.

Eurosceptic news?

OK, this is what France24, a French state owned network, says.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... ine-safety

France, Germany struggle to sell AstraZeneca vaccine safety

The poor take-up comes even as the target group for the jabs, health workers over 50 and people with other serious health risks, can get the vaccine directly from their doctor instead of waiting for appointments at vaccination centres.

Jacques Battistoni, head of the MG France doctors' union, last week denounced the widespread "AstraZeneca bashing" that was causing many vials to go unused.

The damage has been done, now the piper will be paid.

[DefTrap]

OK, this is what France24, a French state owned network, says.

But so far France is not allowing more segments of the population to get the vaccine, nor allowing it for the elderly despite such approval from the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

You're being rather selective, it's not just to do with some vaccine fear, you just can't get it, there's really no other way to say it.

You could stop being quite so gleeful though.

[irie]

OK, this is what France24, a French state owned network, says.

But so far France is not allowing more segments of the population to get the vaccine, nor allowing it for the elderly despite such approval from the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

You're being rather selective, it's not just to do with some vaccine fear, you just can't get it, there's really no other way to say it.

You could stop being quite so gleeful though.

There's more following.- it's what French state media says, not my opinion.

Edit: - it's what French state media says, not my opinion.

[Horse]

OK, this is what France24, a French state owned network, says.

You could stop being quite so gleeful though.

there's no point in canvassing this any further.

You overlooked DT's other point, that you come across as pleased (not cocerned) at the humiliation of Merkel and the poor distribution in France - but then you are also apparently concerned about the health of your relatives. Somewhat contradictory.


While you're here: you said about your wife getting three jabs because records of the first were lost. Was she not given a card with batch details, etc., to track down that vaccination?

[Hoonercat]

Meh. The Swiss refused to authorise for any age due to lack of testing, the US have not authorised it as they wait for more testing, the NACI of Canada have cautioned against using it for the over 65s as have some European countries.
The UK had it's hand forced due to the huge spike in cases and deaths while releasing AZ from any liabilities, that's nothing to gloat about.

[Horse]

Here's as good a place as any:

https://onewayroadtobeer.com/

[Supermofo]

There are no shortage of people hoping for calamity just so they can score a political point.

Social media is awful for this. Short sound bites of anger and spite jumping on every failure and crowing over ever win from all sides. I don't follow people like that myself where possible but some people, Matt Oxley for example retweets endless anti brexit/government stuff and it gets wearing. Even things I agree with I find it draining. I think it's a uniquely social media thing as people don't interact in the same way IRL.

[Supermofo]

Just had a my jab, got the AZ one. Done at a local village hall, all very efficient I was in/out in 10 mins.

If I don't post tomorrow it didn't go well

[Noggin]

There are no shortage of people hoping for calamity just so they can score a political point.

Social media is awful for this. Short sound bites of anger and spite jumping on every failure and crowing over ever win from all sides. I don't follow people like that myself where possible but some people, Matt Oxley for example retweets endless anti brexit/government stuff and it gets wearing. Even things I agree with I find it draining. I think it's a uniquely social media thing as people don't interact in the same way IRL.

On social media people seem to think that because they believe they are right, they really are - and so if you don't agree they continue to the death!!

IRL, it's more a discussion. Usually people agree to disagree. From behind a keyboard is so much easier to stamp your feet and expect people to fall in line with your view

Except one member of my family - I'm used to it with added alcohol (for them) but even sober they came out with this amazing line once - "Let me explain again as you just don't understand what I'm saying. If you understood, you'd agree" I totally did understand what was being said. I just didn't agree!! We no longer talk politics!!

[Supermofo]

Just had a my jab, got the AZ one. Done at a local village hall, all very efficient I was in/out in 10 mins.

If I don't post tomorrow it didn't go well

Felt absolutely fine yesterday, no dead arm etc.

Woke at 3am feeling freezing and a bit shivery. Had to stick a t shirt on. Arm was dead and couldn't lay on it. My mind was wide awake and couldn't sleep properly. It was odd, like flu but a Korma version ie pointless. I had all the shivering/aches but none of the sweats/feeling really ill.

Got a headache now but from the lack of sleep and a bit achey. Sadly for you lot still here spouting rubbish

[Yorick]

The cases here have dropped dramatically in last few weeks

Lanzarote latest coronavirus information updated daily
Current active cases on the island – 121

Currently in Hospital – 18

Cases in ICU -11

The infection rate per 100,000 over the last 7 days is 38.

Lanzarote has had 42 deaths from Covid 19 since the epidemic began.

Peak Numbers

These are the peak numbers and the date when they occurred:

Active Cases – 1121 – 29th January 2021

In Hospital – 66 – 28th January 2021

In ICU – 23 – 8th February 2021