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you really wanna go down the Augustinian route, champ? cos even the dimmest of midwits (ahem) could drag up half a dozen examples of scripture you almost certainly don't follow
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cheb wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:35 am Not even very funny. Maybe they feel the need to be strident after so many years of oppression, lessening as time goes by.

Granted, if the first thing that someone mentions is their sexuality they're as dull as any other lifestyle obsessive, be that a vegan, gym bunny, biker, religious or shorts wearer. Other lifestyle obsessives are available, you'll know when you meet one.
Yes, if the media is “normalising” something as inevitable as homosexuality, then who can object to that? After all, worse things happen at sea (haha).

I’d venture to say they should use their critical faculties before jumping into some of the “transgender” stuff with both feet.
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:25 pm
DefTrap wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:53 am This is what they said when
- different classes 'spoke up'
- different castes 'spoke up'
- different coloured faces 'spoke up'
- different sexes 'spoke up'

I dunno why listening to a pov from a different demographic is so fecking challenging?
We've listened and listened and listened and listened. What will it take to make them shut up for a couple of hours?
Only when we all realise just how fucking special their sexuality makes them
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JackyJoll wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:10 am
cheb wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:35 am Not even very funny. Maybe they feel the need to be strident after so many years of oppression, lessening as time goes by.

Granted, if the first thing that someone mentions is their sexuality they're as dull as any other lifestyle obsessive, be that a vegan, gym bunny, biker, religious or shorts wearer. Other lifestyle obsessives are available, you'll know when you meet one.
Yes, if the media is “normalising” something as inevitable as homosexuality, then who can object to that? After all, worse things happen at sea (haha).

I’d venture to say they should use their critical faculties before jumping into some of the “transgender” stuff with both feet.
The trans thing will settle down in the long run.

Just like the 'allergic to the world' problems of the 1980s did.
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the_priest wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:54 am Some of us care more about truth than being trendy. Inclusive we are, but that comes with an understanding that if you chose to live by Scripture, you cannot throw out the bits you don't like. ;)

Be very careful!

It is not too difficult to find bits of "Scripture" that have been totally abandoned by the modern church.
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Ah yes, lots and lots of it actually... but we have to read it in the context of the NT.
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Ah, the old 'read it in context' argument.

Read it all in the context of the 21st Century and quite a lot changes.
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Steal a march on the other loser religions by reading the Bible in the context of the 22nd Century.

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A bible makes a surprisingly good weapon. You can beat someone to the point of death with it, or do it the slow way with boredom and contradiction.
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the_priest wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:54 am Some of us care more about truth than being trendy. Inclusive we are, but that comes with an understanding that if you chose to live by Scripture, you cannot throw out the bits you don't like. ;)
the_priest wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:32 am Ah yes, lots and lots of it actually... but we have to read it in the context of the NT.
Apparently you can if it doesn't fit the context. :1

With the CofE being a somewhat, well, broad church, with of a lot of interpretations left for the individual vicar it can make for quite a confused church. Which it what the CofE is, desperate to be seen as relevant in the modern world, but tied to, albeit loosely, the bible.

I could be wrong but hasn't the CofE got openly trans ordained vicars now?
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wheelnut wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:12 pm

I could be wrong but hasn't the CofE got openly trans ordained vicars now?
Yes I saw one of the reverend fathers in a frock.
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We shouldn't be talking about religion really, should we but it's always fascinated me the way that the Church of England seems to be very family orientated.

Which is surprising bearing in mind that it started up on the breakdown of a marriage. :P
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yo priestly one - is reading in context essentially a functional analysis of religion? if so doesn't that merit a reconsideration of non-typical families?
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andie wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:26 am you really wanna go down the Augustinian route, champ? cos even the dimmest of midwits (ahem) could drag up half a dozen examples of scripture you almost certainly don't follow
andie wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:11 pm yo priestly one - is reading in context essentially a functional analysis of religion? if so doesn't that merit a reconsideration of non-typical families?
The priest is a long standing poster, both here and in our previous home. He's repsected here by pretty much everyone - we may poke him occasionally but we all, probably without exception, treat him with repsect.

You're a new member and very welcome, but it would be nice if you treated him with respect as well.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:46 am A bible makes a surprisingly good weapon. You can beat someone to the point of death with it, or do it the slow way with boredom and contradiction.
Religions have the same problem as the USA does: they both have written constitutions which require ever more 'interpretation' to try to remain relevant to contemporary society.
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irie wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:24 pm
DefTrap wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 11:46 am A bible makes a surprisingly good weapon. You can beat someone to the point of death with it, or do it the slow way with boredom and contradiction.
Religions have the same problem as the USA does: they both have written constitutions which require ever more 'interpretation' to try to remain relevant to contemporary society.
It has the best intentions but a minority of 'nutters' have spoilt it for the entire world ?
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I read a report yesterday about advertising next to news articles, short version is brands don't want their adverts next to bad news or contentious topics. So I can understand why many news agencies produce so many bland or feel-good articles, as the BBC doesn't rely on advertising what is it's excuse?
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Yeah there's basically a big tick list of OK/Not OK subjects your ad might appear next to...."natural disaster", "political scandal" etc and all the obvious stuff you'd think but then also slightly weirder stuff too. It's part of Mrs Ds day job, hence my knowledge...the algorithms for which ad you see are actually pretty sophisticated and also involve a hiddeb bidding war every time you go to a site.

WRT the BBC though, I've just this second looked at the front page and it is almost universally bad news, or at least not unequivocally positive. Most of it is Coronavirus, Megxit and weather, the only vacuous headline is Kardashian/West getting divorced. So I'm not sure your point holds water. Not today at least!
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Mussels wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:46 am I read a report yesterday about advertising next to news articles, short version is brands don't want their adverts next to bad news or contentious topics. So I can understand why many news agencies produce so many bland or feel-good articles, as the BBC doesn't rely on advertising what is it's excuse?
Another issue is, because of the transistion from print media to online media, where advertising click through becomes the main revenue stream, the clickbait articles are just vacuous nonsense designed to generate a click.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:52 am WRT the BBC though, I've just this second looked at the front page and it is almost universally bad news, or at least not unequivocally positive. Most of it is Coronavirus, Megxit and weather, the only vacuous headline is Kardashian/West getting divorced. So I'm not sure your point holds water. Not today at least!
Yes but there's something about the articles, as if they are trying to cut down on something. I'm not quite sure what it is but something is missing.