Are Trump protests finished?

[Yorick]

If is search for the title of that video I find that video immediately....unsurprisingly. That doesn't really demonstrate much of anything at all.

What are you searching for to find/not find it?

Is this the unknown unknowns ?

[Horse]

Parler was introduced to restore some semblance of balance ... So of course, that was famously silenced too.

Still begs the question: why haven't all of the affronted people put there dollars up and created a non-censorable hub, a united resource for all of the videos, discussion, etc.? ie Their own Parler, Tube, etc. And that's not just the 'ordinary' people supporting the service, it includes the Trump types and anyone else who believes that this alleged censorship is happening.

Well how about the "factcheckers"? Seem to be a fair few of them popping up. Well they are merely a front for left wing, democratic nonsense too. I recently gave an example where snopes classified a report as mostly false despite, as they admit in their propaganda, being factually true. This "flag" means search rankings will be reduced (if not zeroed), hit counts (the number of views) reduced in popularity and re-tweets unavailable (for example).

That's quite amusing since Snopes was quoted here, in this thread, debunking a rumour.

[Horse]

IWhat are you searching for to find/not find it?

Let me see if I can help you out:

Isn't it strange that if I search Youtube for the State Farm Arena video I get several videos of people talking about "fact checking" the video I want to see but not the video I want to see? Once I find the video and I search for it by its title it's fourth on the list, behind three videos of people talking about the video.

Or, in other words, I put "state farm arena video" into Youtube's search box.

I'm sure I could think of different ways to put it but I'm not convinced you want to understand.

What was the URL of the video that Google found?

[Mr. Dazzle]

IWhat are you searching for to find/not find it?

Let me see if I can help you out:

Isn't it strange that if I search Youtube for the State Farm Arena video I get several videos of people talking about "fact checking" the video I want to see but not the video I want to see? Once I find the video and I search for it by its title it's fourth on the list, behind three videos of people talking about the video.

Or, in other words, I put "state farm arena video" into Youtube's search box.

I'm sure I could think of different ways to put it but I'm not convinced you want to understand.

If I search "state farm arena video" in YouTube the one in question is a first page hit for me.

As above, you must be on some kind of watch list

Like I said, if there's some great hand of censorship at work here it's rubbish.

[Saga Lout]

What was the URL of the video that Google found?

Let me see if I can help you out.

Isn't it strange that if I search Youtube for the State Farm Arena video I get several videos of people talking about "fact checking" the video I want to see but not the video I want to see? Once I find the video and I search for it by its title it's fourth on the list, behind three videos of people talking about the video.

Mr D. The video I want to see is the State Farm Arena video, the one I posted earlier. This one:

Does that help?

[DEADPOOL]

Parler was introduced to restore some semblance of balance ... So of course, that was famously silenced too.

Still begs the question: why haven't all of the affronted people put there dollars up and created a non-censorable hub, a united resource for all of the videos, discussion, etc.? ie Their own Parler, Tube, etc. And that's not just the 'ordinary' people supporting the service, it includes the Trump types and anyone else who believes that this alleged censorship is happening.

Well how about the "factcheckers"? Seem to be a fair few of them popping up. Well they are merely a front for left wing, democratic nonsense too. I recently gave an example where snopes classified a report as mostly false despite, as they admit in their propaganda, being factually true. This "flag" means search rankings will be reduced (if not zeroed), hit counts (the number of views) reduced in popularity and re-tweets unavailable (for example).

That's quite amusing since Snopes was quoted here, in this thread, debunking a rumour.

Using Parler as an example for how easy it would be to take on Amazon, let alone Google is arguing against yourself. Look what happened. You may be referring to my story on snopes for all I know.

If it was that easy to build a rival to Google, YouTube, FaceBook etc. the world woud be full of multi-billionaires. Such services do exist, DuckDuckGo for example but we all still use Google anyway.

What generally happens in the world of big tech is when threatened they will either buy up the fledgeling company for pocket money or they will gang up on the usurpers and destroy them. Why do you think there isn't an alternative secondhand market to rival eBay?

But since you use the phrase "alleged censorship" I know my words are falling on deaf ears.

[Yorick]

Is there a prize for the biggest and best arguing?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Is there a prize for the biggest and best arguing?

You win the election.

Until someone finds more votes mysteriously.

[Horse]

Is there a prize for the biggest and best arguing?

Yes, but they're not prepared to fund it

[DefTrap]

stuff

What i want to know is who is using the likes of YouTube / Facebook / Twitter as their source of 'truth' ? And how much time do they have to spend on any media (social or otherwise) fecking curating it to notice when their favourite videos / threads / channels go missing?

If YouTube / Facebook / Twitter did have an algorithm which let all the deadbeat whinging and horseshit slide metaphorically down the side of the sofa I wouldn't blame them. And leaves more room for me to endlessly watch people taking carburettors apart

[Yorick]

Is there a prize for the biggest and best arguing?

You win the election.

Until someone finds more votes mysteriously.

On this thread beardy boy.

[Mr. Dazzle]

As above....I found the offending video, which SL previously claimed has been removed entirely, on the first page of YouTube results using the prescribed search terms.

I think this is just a lesson in the way search algorithms work and not censorship at work. I dunno, maybe the fact I've not searched much for this topic brings the "obvious" videos up first whereas SL has looked loads so it discounts the big hitters thinking he's already seen them. Whatever it is, I suspect the explanation is pretty mundane.

[DEADPOOL]

stuff

What i want to know is who is using the likes of YouTube / Facebook / Twitter as their source of 'truth' ? And how much time do they have to spend on any media (social or otherwise) fecking curating it to notice when their favourite videos / threads / channels go missing?

If YouTube / Facebook / Twitter did have an algorithm which let all the deadbeat whinging and horseshit slide metaphorically down the side of the sofa I wouldn't blame them. And leaves more room for me to endlessly watch people taking carburettors apart

That is a perfectly valid point of course. If you want to bury your head in the sand and ignore everything happening in the world that is absolutely your prerogative. It does not however bestow you with the authority to criticise those who do care about personal freedom of expression.

As for finding "stuff" on you tube: if you're asking me, I have already explained I never take the "headlines" at face value. E.g. innocent schoolboy knocked off his motorcycle is a perfect example where virtually every individual word is a lie.

[Mr. Dazzle]

beardy boy.

Reported! Hairism!

[DEADPOOL]

As above....I found the offending video, which SL previously claimed has been removed entirely, on the first page of YouTube results using the prescribed search terms.

I think this is just a lesson in the way search algorithms work and not censorship at work. I dunno, maybe the fact I've not searched much for this topic brings the "obvious" videos up first whereas SL has looked loads so it discounts the big hitters thinking he's already seen them. Whatever it is, I suspect the explanation is pretty mundane.

Well you will be unsurprised to learn I watched every single one of those videos and they are mind numbingly tedious.

What I find interesting though is that it is a video of evidence given under oath, on pain of perjury by a large number of people who were actually present during those events and yet somehow, the majority of people in this forum want to believe they are all wrong, all lying and that nothing happened.

I can't quite understand how people can simply ignore such testimonies as if they know better.

[Horse]

E.g. innocent schoolboy knocked off his motorcycle is a perfect example where virtually every individual word is a lie.

Indeed.

That junior Moto-X is a dirty business.

[DEADPOOL]

E.g. innocent schoolboy knocked off his motorcycle is a perfect example where virtually every individual word is a lie.

Indeed.

That junior Moto-X is a dirty business.

You don't have to feign ignorance for comic effect, you're funny enough as it is.

[JackyJoll]

You don't have to feign ignorance for comic effect, you're funny enough as it is.

Can only speak for myself, but I often have serious conversations, just not with people like you.

[DefTrap]

That is a perfectly valid point of course. If you want to bury your head in the sand and ignore everything happening in the world that is absolutely your prerogative. It does not however bestow you with the authority to criticise those who do care about personal freedom of expression.

As for finding "stuff" on you tube: if you're asking me, I have already explained I never take the "headlines" at face value. E.g. innocent schoolboy knocked off his motorcycle is a perfect example where virtually every individual word is a lie.

Maybe the more popular social media is not the place for "personal freedom of expression" then because maybe the majority of users don't want it spoiled and maybe the hosts don't want it hijacked?

You can't force people to be engaged, cop a wobbly if they don't, nor be be critical of the hosts for not encouraging you.

[Cousin Jack]

Is there a prize for the biggest and best arguing?

No, but some people are hoping that the most persistent and illogical argument will win eventually.

It has been said already, Yawn!

Trump is gone, in 4 years time we may or may not be blessed with a repeat performance. Until then let's just enjoy the respite.